2 Men In Black and White: An Honest Conversation

Mark Hayes (00:05.892)
Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back, another exciting episode. First of all, can we believe anything? Let's let's see. What smells fishy? is it the death of Nolan Wells, where no one is better at covering up the truth and the and the death of an African American than folks in good old Mississippi? Or is it, you know, the health of Mitch McConnell? Why is that picture have him on with jeans and no IVs?

That's a really fishy looking picture in terms of proof of life. And then we have the sudden death of Lindsey Graham. wow. Can we believe anything that these officials are telling us? and by the way, today is the anniversary of the Trayvon Martin verdict and injustice, as if we needed another reminder.

All let's check in with Brock and Ellis now joining us with a closer look at these stories and more. Brock, yeah, bro. I I don't believe anything with Nolan Wells. Ben Crump posting the picture of him at a pool party. and then you have the whole issue of the boat in the middle of the night. The judge's family felt the need to clean it. Clean it. What's all that about?

Brock Ganeles (01:32.462)
Cleaning the boat, won't give the family the phone, deleted texts, how did they get into it? A photo at eleven o'clock at night when supposedly they have left them on the island at three o'clock. I mean, this looks like the biggest, you know, botched attempt at a murder cover-up we've we've ever seen. I saw s I mean, this is gonna make for one of those documentaries on Netflix.

Mark Hayes (01:52.494)
Right.

Mark Hayes (01:59.157)
no doubt.

Brock Ganeles (01:59.48)
But it's on it's it's unraveled already, all the way down to whether the Coast Guard member has been on the up and up that they received a call at eleven o'clock the night of. So all leads to the factor of can we believe not only each other, but can we believe the authorities anymore in the age of Trump? Or has lying just become so mainstreamed?

And so accept it as a way to wiggle out of trouble slash atrocities that that's just the way America functions. The other story it that you didn't hit in the monologue there was another unarmed Latino man murdered

Mark Hayes (02:50.988)
It's killing.

Brock Ganeles (02:53.374)
in Maine only six days or so after the murder in Houston with the same fucking lie that he used the vehicle as a weapon. And we just know that it's a crock of shit. They're shooting into vehicles and we'll it's just they just immediately immediately default to the lie.

Mark Hayes (03:15.896)
They're hateful bastards, and that's why they're doing it. before we get into the ice shooting down in in Mississippi, you've got so many different people working to cover that story up. I mean, have you ever seen such a a callous disregard for you know it's bad when white people all over America

Are chiming in on social media and playing Inspector Clouseau from home that they are enraged. I saw a white woman today with a brown daughter who said that every time her daughter leaves the house, a piece of her dies because she's afraid that that young girl may not come home. And that that young lady's in her 20s. The same thing.

That, you know, the Wells family probably never even thought of. You know, they thought he was hanging around some good kids because, you know, they were from supposedly good families. You know? But what what makes a good family these days? You know, the the the family that was lying about his car keys, the family that was lying about deleting his Snapchats, or the family that was lying about where his phone was. You know, what what what what constitutes?

A good family and how do you get so many people to to to just go along with the fucking flow when a young man's life has been taken? It's clear, it's clear that this young man was unalived by someone. And it shouldn't be that hard to figure out who.

Brock Ganeles (04:58.498)
I mean the mastermind were the parents, particularly the mother who is the judge, figured out they could just kind of play a series of events and then it would never get investigated and it would go away. And more

Mark Hayes (05:05.924)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (05:15.384)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (05:18.47)
white people in the community felt it was better to maintain the status quo that the death of one black kid wasn't that big a deal. We don't want to blow up our whole community. So they rolled along with it. I mean you're gonna have dozens of people ultimately that are are gonna have been involved in either the death or the cover up or certainly the look the other way to quote stay out of the way on this one. This is as big an indictment of white America

as we've seen in quite some time. And it got me to thinking about that traditional comment that we'd have in America, which is like, quote, small town values.

Mark Hayes (05:51.809)
Right.

Mark Hayes (05:59.884)
Mm.

Brock Ganeles (06:01.484)
Right. And then think about how racist small town values is, right? Which is the whole America's been built on the small town values. Because what it implies is rural, so small town, which then implies that it's white, which then implies that it's like, everyone takes care of each other and everyone it grows up in a way with real values, like it's of real America, because not urban values, not urban values, it's small towns, not big city values.

Mark Hayes (06:21.686)
Right. Truth and honor. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (06:29.582)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (06:30.336)
It's small town values. And it's always just been a crock of shit. It's been the lie that white America's told itself to make them feel better. Because the sad reality of small town values has always been like very insular. And when someone comes from the outside who doesn't fit in or look or act like everyone else, they're immediately villainized, ostracized, and because America's violent, off often killed.

Mark Hayes (06:35.224)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (06:44.162)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (06:58.114)
Yep. Yes. America the violet. That's how we should be referred to as. Remember, there are always travel warnings about coming to the US because of the amount of violence that occurs here. all right, let's move on to this ice killing up in Maine. Again, Trump's legacy will be that of fake news. It's all fake news, they're lying, you know, and now he lies.

because that's the only thing he knows. That's the only way he's ever done business. lying, cheating, and stealing. And now we're doing it with with our government. And you know, it really puts on display how little America cares about b black and brown lives. I mean no one gives a shit that, you know, these lives are being taken. I mean

The the victim in Houston was a business owner, company man, had five what, four or five people working for him. He was on his way to work. He wasn't on his way to get a check from the white society that was allegedly supporting him, if you believe all the lies. He was on his way to work with his crew of workers.

And you know, I mean, gosh, the guy had been here thirty plus years paying into the system. I mean, he had to be paying some taxes. Brocky had a home. Nice home too, as a matter of fact. So like

Brock Ganeles (08:35.966)
Ice li ice lies 'cause they have to cover up their atrocities. But Trump is Trump is the kids in Mississippi that killed the black kid because Trump raped raped teenage girls.

Mark Hayes (08:40.662)
Right.

Mark Hayes (08:46.23)
Right. Right.

Mark Hayes (08:51.864)
Children. Yep.

Brock Ganeles (08:52.77)
So therefore his life has been a cover up in the same way that their lives in the last week have been a cover up of their atrocities. And the DOJ and Todd Blanche are like the the parents of the kids perpetrating a ham handed cover up of their of their child that has committed the atrocity. So Donald Trump is them. He's the ICE agent who killed someone who has to lie.

Mark Hayes (09:02.094)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (09:07.427)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (09:11.116)
No doubt.

No doubt.

Mark Hayes (09:18.808)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (09:22.656)
and stick to the lie and then get protected by the system. He's the white kids in Minneapolis. They're all I mean in in Mississippi. They're all the same.

Mark Hayes (09:27.064)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (09:33.986)
No, you're right, Brock. because and I hate to say it, but it's it is the truth. If if shoot were on the other foot, and these were three or four black kids that were covering all this up, I mean, these cats would have been cuffed and stuffed the day of. Soon as that white mother had called in and reported her kid missing, those the last few people with him would have been cuffed and stuffed.

Brock Ganeles (10:01.494)
You know what they would be? They'd be the Central Park Five. They would be already talking about death penalty. People like Donald Trump would already have out full page advertisements in the newspaper arguing for why they should be basically murdered in the Times Square and hung in front of the public. But these white you know, that boat would have been confiscated so quickly in Mississippi.

Mark Hayes (10:03.941)
É o Ignoral.

Mark Hayes (10:12.312)
New York Times bags.

Mark Hayes (10:19.48)
Yep.

Yeah. We

Brock Ganeles (10:28.312)
Those kids would be cuffed, they'd be in separate rooms, they'd get the shit beat out of them until somebody told the real story and and broke them down.

Mark Hayes (10:28.487)
Mark Hayes (10:34.252)
Told or told the story they wanted or told the story they wanted them to tell.

Brock Ganeles (10:38.85)
They wanted to hear. So, like it's we've already seen what it looks like when it's black potentially black perpetrators versus white perpetrators. This is as glaring an example of the unequal justice system in America as we've ever seen, and it's all going on at the same time. While ICE is getting protected murdering people, white kids are also getting protected murdering.

Mark Hayes (10:55.225)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (10:59.694)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (11:06.018)
murdering people as long as they're people of color, because who sits at the top of the pyramid in America?

Mark Hayes (11:14.69)
Right. White America.

Brock Ganeles (11:15.118)
A a rapist, not just a sexual assaulter of adult women, a child rapist.

Mark Hayes (11:22.228)
And

Mark Hayes (11:26.38)
Right, and we all know it.

Brock Ganeles (11:26.814)
All being protected by the system and putting people in place who will protect the system as it is, which could get us to segue to Lindsey Graham. With the with the with the absolute absurdity that it's his sister who is going to be put into

Mark Hayes (11:35.969)
Right.

Mark Hayes (11:41.652)
gosh.

Brock Ganeles (11:55.754)
appointed to his Senate seat for the next six months. Talk about perpetrating the same white supremacy system. They're actually just taking someone from the family with no political experience. No one knows a fucking thing about Lindsey Graham's sister. But the state of South Carolina yeah, state of South Carolina's gonna get represented by Lindsey Graham's white sister. How much fucking compromise does Trump have on Lindsey Graham?

Mark Hayes (12:12.782)
Sister. Didn't even know he had one. Right.

Black.

Brock Ganeles (12:25.506)
That his sister has to step in and vote in line with MAGA for six months, right? Just to maybe keep the stories under wraps.

Mark Hayes (12:33.836)
Well, and and how corrupt is the state of South Carolina. I mean, remember, this they had to be, you know, it you had to pull teeth to get them to take down the rebel flag off the state house. Right? Like, you know, it it doesn't get much more hateful than the state of South Carolina. I mean, and think about the cowardice that Lindsey d Lindsey Graham displayed after January sixth, because he told us the night of he was out. This was too much for him.

Brock Ganeles (13:02.413)
Uh-huh.

Mark Hayes (13:04.098)
Right. And then what, two days later he was all in again? Right.

Brock Ganeles (13:07.958)
Yeah, he got reminded how much the CIA had on him and how mu how embarrassing it would be for him, right? There's a guy who didn't live his truth. Right? There's a gay closeted gay man who basically decimated the LGBT community as part of his career path.

Mark Hayes (13:13.784)
Right.

Right. At all.

Mark Hayes (13:26.924)
Right. Because he had to. Because he had to get along with it.

Brock Ganeles (13:30.282)
And and so when the d so but because when Trump comes along and he has a way of smelling everyone's weakness, Trump owned Lindsey Graham. Lindsey Graham flipped for proximity to power. Lindsey Graham also flipped because he couldn't trust Donald Trump to keep his secrets.

Mark Hayes (13:37.782)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Mark Hayes (13:48.78)
Right. Right. And was and

Brock Ganeles (13:51.436)
And now his sister now it's his sister's job to try to keep Lindsey Graham's secrets under wraps.

Mark Hayes (13:57.561)
Would you want that job? Would you would you wanna have to try to keep Lind Lindsey Graham's lady lady Lady G's secrets under wraps?

Brock Ganeles (14:06.784)
It's gonna they're all gonna it's they're all gonna come out. I mean we can get off the the Lindsey Graham topics is you know, just just another signifier of what's wrong with America, right? That fact that it's we have this, you know that his sister's gonna get inserted into his seat, that he would do anything for power, including not only not live his authentic life, but then

Mark Hayes (14:10.318)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (14:19.802)
no.

Brock Ganeles (14:34.274)
Bend over backwards to make it that much harder for LGBTQ people in this country. And yet and yet we have people like Kobishar and Corey Booker who their first reaction is to talk about like how sad it is and what a good person Lindsey Graham was. Like, what the fuck are they doing? This was a terrible human being that was given way too much power and did terrible things.

Mark Hayes (14:40.225)
Right.

Mark Hayes (14:56.964)
How about say nothing? Right. How about just say nothing? Right. Keep it moving. Right.

Brock Ganeles (15:03.202)
Just say nothing. Move along.

Brock Ganeles (15:08.172)
No one's asking for that from you. None of your constituents are asking for you to give some fake glowing you know eulogy of of Lindsey Graham in public. And beyond that, why are they friends with Lindsey Graham? Why why would they be friends with someone who is imposing so much negative outcomes on so many people, not to mention their constituents. So

Mark Hayes (15:16.587)
Endorsement

Mark Hayes (15:25.439)
Exactly.

Mark Hayes (15:35.492)
Exactly.

Brock Ganeles (15:38.12)
I always wonder, like, would they would Cory Booker and Kloboshar have eulogized Hitler? Like, yeah, you know what? Yeah, it's sad to see he went down in that bunker. You know, you know, he did some bad things, but you know, me and Ottof actually agreed on, you know

Mark Hayes (15:47.821)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (15:54.466)
You know, the Arc our Arctic Ocean policy. You know, we did some really good things up there in the Arctic Ocean. Like, who the fuck cares? Corey Buster talking about how they did some good things on incarceration. Like, who gives a fuck, Corey? You thought he was funny, Globushar? You thought he was charming? Wait, like are you fucking kidding me with this sh you kidding me with this shit? Yeah, who the fuck would he know who he's talking about? He's talking about one thing over 24 years, maybe.

Mark Hayes (15:58.237)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (16:12.248)
Well what what what good things have been done with incarceration?

Mark Hayes (16:18.627)
What

Brock Ganeles (16:22.85)
But you know, that that's a that's a side that's a problem with the left, that we're so soft that we give these fake platitudes, or we've elected people who are so out of touch with the with the sentiments of the most of us.

Mark Hayes (16:22.937)
Right.

Mark Hayes (16:37.889)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (16:38.21)
that we're c we're we get the government we deserve also because we get people whose first reaction is to wanna gloss over the atrocities of Lindsey Graham and talk about how he enjoyed playing fucking peanut with him. Who fucking cares?

Mark Hayes (16:54.788)
Right, right, right. And what difference does it what first of all, tell me what the fuck good has been done with incarceration? I haven't seen anything positive done. What the fuck could he be talking about? As a brown face. Man, just uttering those words makes me want to snap. I mean, good lord. all right, Maine.

Brock Ganeles (17:03.852)
Yeah, I don't I don't I don't even know what he's referring to. I have no idea he was referring to.

Brock Ganeles (17:20.674)
But the Lindsay the Lindsey Graham stories the Lindsey Graham stories also like lies that are in immediately covered up. Because Mark, I just have a couple questions and we can move on in this one. But just gets back to how everything coming our way is a lie. With Lindsey Graham, who had apparently an aortic burst or something that killed him, who who called 911?

Mark Hayes (17:30.924)
Mm.

Mark Hayes (17:41.188)
Yeah. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (17:45.444)
Not him. Not with that kind of boost.

Brock Ganeles (17:48.17)
Okay, so so he's a single seventy one year old guy living in Washington DC. So who called nine one one? Now supposedly the story is it was some woman called nine one one from s saying she was in Baltimore and driving to the house. Okay, so who was that person and how did she know that Lindsey Graham was fucking having a heart attack?

Mark Hayes (18:13.09)
Was in distress. Right.

Brock Ganeles (18:15.008)
In his ass. Because would did would Lindsey Graham have called her instead of calling 911 to save his life? He called the madam of the whatever, you know, gay hooker he probably had in in the in the in the house. Because my second question is, why did the person who called 911 say that the front door was open?

Mark Hayes (18:27.78)
You're right.

Brock Ganeles (18:37.922)
But when the EMTs got there, the front door was locked. Well, how would the person who called nine one one know whether or not the front door was open? Unless they knew someone in the house who they had told.

Mark Hayes (18:38.638)
Well

Mark Hayes (18:45.858)
Right. Right. Because it was supposed to be less than

Brock Ganeles (18:49.612)
To leave the door open, who apparently didn't leave the door open. And if the door was open, Lindsey Graham might still be alive. But the fact that the EMTs couldn't get into the house for what? Twenty, twenty-five minutes when you're having a massive heart attack, something tells me those twenty, twenty, twenty-five minutes matter. So those are just a couple of facts within the case, so something tells me.

Mark Hayes (18:51.756)
Right.

Mark Hayes (18:56.579)
Right.

Mark Hayes (19:05.964)
are crucial.

Brock Ganeles (19:10.796)
That there was someone in the house with Lindsey Graham. Because why would Lindsey Graham, a single guy on a Saturday night, why would he leave his house open? Does he think he lives like in my little town with no crime? He's living in DC, he's a senator, he could be a target. He just came back. He's got a lot of people who may want him dead. You're telling me Lindsey Graham just leaves his front door open? So why would the person who called 911 think that his front door was gonna be open? Okay, so none of it adds up. So I just feel like I'm being lied to.

Mark Hayes (19:19.822)
Right.

Mark Hayes (19:32.196)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (19:41.26)
Right. Right. Again. Again. Again. And you

Brock Ganeles (19:41.986)
Which takes us to Mitch McConnell.

Brock Ganeles (19:47.284)
Explain the Mitch McConnell photo to me, Mark, please.

Mark Hayes (19:51.501)
I mean, no IVs, wearing jeans, sitting up like it's a family portrait of JCPenney. wow, if he's in that good a shape, why isn't he making a call? Why aren't we talking to him? Why aren't they holding up a newspaper with the date on it? If he's in such good shape, you know, I saw a meme of him breakdancing, and then I also saw a meme of him, you know, in in the thriller video. So, you know, it it

I mean it's a joke it it's because it's comical and we have to do that because it's

Brock Ganeles (20:22.87)
Am I the Am I the only one that thinks he looks like ten years younger than the last photo I saw of him in the Senate? So what's when the last person you saw was an ICU for twenty four days that looked like they

Mark Hayes (20:36.352)
Look like they just got out of a cold shower. Yeah. Looks like he just got out. Looked like he had some sun. Like he had been on a trip. Like he'd been on a vacation. As opposed to being in a cold, you know, germ-free hospital room with IVs going in and out of every orifice. But, you know, call us stupid. You know, and see, Brock, here's the thing. With these computers today and with AI, you can do anything with a photo, right?

Brock Ganeles (20:37.068)
They got younger. It looks like he's been a club med, right?

Mark Hayes (21:05.942)
And so that's why I don't believe any of this crap. You know, and and shame on Elaine Chow for going along with it. Right? You know, after they they've just just I mean just obliter tried to obliterate the Asian community. Remember when we had the Asian shootings here in Atlanta? And you know, nobody wanted to come out and say how despicable that was, right? You know, even even Trump besmirched Elaine Chow.

And which is McConnell's wife, who is an Asian woman, from a wealthy Asian family who has benefited significantly from her proximity to power with Mitch and all the money that Mitch has made. So when you combine the Mitch McConnell fortune with the Chow fortune, it's meet the ends is meeting like a motherfucker for those two.

So, you know, damn her for going along with the lie, you know, but now she's doing it because it helped their business interests. But, you know, in the meantime, you know, how do you, again, how do you be Asian MAGA, right? Like I keep asking, how do you be black MAGA? How is that possible? Especially after, you know, hearing everything that's been said about Mitch on the left and the right.

So, you know, hey, Mitch has served his purpose, I guess. You know, he said his purpose was to make Barack Obama, you know, his his signature, you know, accomplishment was to make Barack Obama a one-term president, but wasn't able to do it. But he did rob President Obama of that Supreme Court pick, which fucked us.

inevitably, you know, from now until who knows when, because then remember the series of event, we ended up with Coney Barrett, Gorsage, and Kavanaugh, and we also ended up with Merrick Ba Merrick Garland as Attorney General, who who garlanded all the Trump investigations.

Mark Hayes (23:06.284)
You know, because he's a middle of the road guy, you know, and a and a jurist, you know. And he came up with all kinds of bullshit excuses of why he couldn't investigate the president and couldn't charge him. You know, the former fucking you know, criminally minded president Trump. And now we got Trump two point So this is all to do with Merrick Arlen.

And and and Mitch McConnell. We can thank Mitch McConnell for ruining single-handedly almost the democracy with those three appointments to the Supreme Court. It's just totally fucked America. And now we're sitting at 6'3. you know, Biden couldn't expand the court, couldn't, wouldn't, shouldn't, I don't know what he thought. we'll never know. but again, you know, what can we believe about McConnell?

Can we believe he's ill? Can we believe he's brain dead? because everyb everything was moving toward brain dead before Lindsey Graham passed. And then once Lindsey Graham passed, they were like, Mitch McGowell's fine. Take a look at this picture from him at the carnival last week. What? What? Sheesh.

Brock Ganeles (24:20.352)
I think the picture's a fraud. I think the story about Lindsey Graham is a fraud. I think the comment from the ICE agents in Houston and in Maine are frauds. I think the I think the stories from every single white person in southern Mississippi at this point is a fraud.

Mark Hayes (24:33.24)
Rogs. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (24:41.646)
For God.

Brock Ganeles (24:44.128)
And I have always felt, and I don't know why how we're ten years into this and haven't come to the final conclusion, that everything Trump says is a fucking fraud. From the Iran war to the fucking reflecting pool to obviously his absurdly sordid criminal history that

Mark Hayes (24:55.801)
Right.

Mark Hayes (25:01.645)
Okay.

Brock Ganeles (25:08.108)
this week Todd Blanche is gonna be in front of the Senate for approval as the full time head of the Department of Justice. And he is appointed for only one reason.

Because he said that he is unwilling to let a single shred of the Epstein files go out from here. Pam Bondi's only mistake, the only reason she's not in the seat, is she thought she could redact and leak some stuff out and that would placate the public. She thought she could just fool us all. And unfortunately, they were so incompetent that Trump's name kept coming out and it made him look like the fucking

Mark Hayes (25:40.375)
Right.

Mark Hayes (25:43.831)
Right.

Mark Hayes (25:48.436)
Okay.

Brock Ganeles (25:50.39)
Child rapist that he is, so therefore they had to come along with Todd Blanche. So the question is, will the Senate approve, you know, ratify him with all these dead and brain dead, you know, fucking octagenarian white guys who aren't in their seats right now. But we gotta get Lindsay Graham's sister in there pronto, so that she can get to get up there and vote for Todd Blanche.

Mark Hayes (26:08.013)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (26:18.198)
And vote for the Save Act.

Mark Hayes (26:18.442)
And that dude McMaster. Right. And McMaster, you know, if you ever thought he was gonna do the right thing, forget about that. That ain't happening. No, not at all.

Brock Ganeles (26:29.43)
Never thought he was gonna do the right thing. Yeah. Never was under the belief that there was the right thing. The right thing by who?

Mark Hayes (26:36.042)
Not at all. Right. Exactly. So yeah, bro. So we got all that. You know, and then again, I I I felt like the Trayvon Martin story was important today because it birthed the Black Lives Matter movement. And you know, which which for whatever reason, Brock, seemed to create more division than less.

I mean, then we started hearing white lives matter. All lives matter. Well, no. all lives will matter when black lives start being unalived, stop being unalived, right? For no reason. Right? Unarmed black men, women, and children. We're not seeing unalived white.

Women, men, children, unarmed, unalive, and then covered up, and then police officers allowed to move to different jurisdictions. We don't see that. Why is it such a difficult concept for people to say?

You know what? Black America might have a case here. You know, we got Sandra Bland, we got Tamir Rice, we got Sean Bell, we got my gosh, I c I can't even think of all the names. I'm seeing my Philando Castile up in Minnesota. We got the young man who played his stereo too loud down in

in Florida, the the the son of a US Congresswoman, Lucy McBath's son. his name would I forget Jordan's last name. Then you also got Laquan McDonald up in Chicago. I mean many of these shootings were caught on video. Yeah. So you got you got all these stories and and black America is saying hey hey wait a minute.

Brock Ganeles (28:38.444)
Yeah, Arbery.

Mark Hayes (28:48.088)
You know, I mean, we're seeing guys like Dylan Roof sit in a room with African American churchgoers in Bible study, murder nine of them, and be taken into custody without a shot being fired. But yet Tamir Rice is playing with a toy gun and and is blown away within a second.

Of police officers arriving on the scene, but j just please help me understand why it caused more division than not, because it it it it still befuddles me.

Brock Ganeles (29:24.238)
I mean, at the end of the day we're we're in a discussion about power and ultimately what challenges the power structure in America. And Black Lives Matter challenged it because it became a force and a force to be reckoned with. So it had to be in essence put down. Media plays a big role in it by you know, water it down, put it down.

Mark Hayes (29:35.843)
No doubt.

Brock Ganeles (29:53.858)
you know, get white America to consolidate because they feel aggrieved because hey, what do you mean? All lives matter, not just black lives. So, you know, we're being once again reverse discriminated against and playing that victim card and to kind of you know to in essence disperse and discredit the Black Lives Matter movement. But then here we go

Mark Hayes (30:07.821)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (30:19.34)
So then things go back to status quo, right? The NFL takes the end racism out of the end zones and DEI gets rolled back and nothing ever happens with police reform because you they need that qualified immunity. And ICE, the only change that happens is you fire the head of ICE, and then the only message to the new person is, you know what? Stop shooting the white people as bystanders, because that riles up America. So stop shooting the white people.

Mark Hayes (30:46.196)
Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (30:49.056)
And keep doing everything else you're doing, but like one thing you gotta be cognizant of. Don't shoot the white people. Because that that gets everyone out on the streets and rallies everyone. So just keep making sure you're shooting the brown people. Yeah. Being sure you're putting so it's really gets back to power structures and the like and why there has to be a really, really consolidated resistance and why there needs to be a unification amongst the groups.

Mark Hayes (30:57.261)
Right.

Mark Hayes (31:01.538)
Right. That's a no go.

Brock Ganeles (31:19.276)
that are actually being subjugated. So that's why it's such a loss when there's the Asian community and the black communities mad at each other. Right now the the the Jewish community's totally fucking carved in half because of what's going on Netanyahu in Israel. And that blacks and Latinos, you know, have to come together and while the lit so many Latinos peeled off to become MAGA

Mark Hayes (31:31.108)
Right.

Mark Hayes (31:36.716)
Right. It is weak. Right.

Brock Ganeles (31:48.608)
adjacent because they like their proximity in the social hierarchy to be a little further up the ladder. And now they're seeing that none of that does shit for them. Doesn't protect them at all. None of them are protected. Doesn't like it was just a flat out mistake. And the Muslims who didn't want to vote for the left because they're so worried about the policy in Gaza. And I get it, it was important. But

Mark Hayes (31:50.347)
Right.

Mark Hayes (32:01.715)
Wall. Right.

Brock Ganeles (32:16.082)
had certain fights had to be fought after the big fight. And the big fight is to defeat white supremacy because those that power structure is so fucking entrenched. It's Mississippi is such a microcosm of it, right? Everyone's involved. You got the mother's a judge. The Coast Guards it it seems at least a member of the Coast Guard is involved. Look in the The police the sheriff is involved. The rank and file policemen are involved. Plus all the families

Mark Hayes (32:20.205)
Right.

Mark Hayes (32:30.585)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (32:37.805)
A sheriff?

Brock Ganeles (32:45.866)
And all the kids. The only thing that's gonna take them down in the end is social media, right? They're all posting too much sh and when you post so much shit, you can't even lie against it because the timestamps bite you in the ass.

Mark Hayes (32:48.068)
Right.

Mark Hayes (32:52.824)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (33:02.314)
And and like I used to say, we used to have a federal government, a civil rights division that would come in and take over a case like this, right? Because obviously the locals didn't want to handle it properly. Now we don't have that. Right? We don't have that luxury. We don't have that justice system anymore. So we won't be seeing that. All right, buddy, good place to wrap up. We'll pick it up and do it again tomorrow. Sound good?

Brock Ganeles (33:27.554)
But it's but it's people like Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell that helped built that. Help build that. So to eulogize them as if they were, you know, f charming, funny people is just absurd. That's that's where I wanted to live. Now we can sign off. I had to have the last word on that. All right, Mark. I I I would say only a pleasure I'd say always a pleasure, although today is was a little bit depressing, but I guess it feels better to

Mark Hayes (33:32.588)
Help right. Put it in place.

Mark Hayes (33:39.512)
Totally wrong.

Mark Hayes (33:43.62)
I'm glad you landed on that one. Yeah.

You got it. I'm glad you got that in.

Mark Hayes (33:56.012)
Yeah man. Yeah, I'm gonna go have a small stiff drink. All right, Brody. Revolution. We'll talk tomorrow. Peace.

Brock Ganeles (33:57.592)
To get it out.

Brock Ganeles (34:05.108)
my take care.