2 Men In Black and White: An Honest Conversation

Mark Hayes (00:00.51)
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Two men in black and white in honest conversation. Please like and subscribe. All right. We are talking. Wow, Donald Trump won't get off the stage. What a mess. In the meantime, we've got more U.S. soldiers dying in Iran. Is Mitch alive or dead? What is going on? And Caramelo Anthony Nolan Wells. Lots happening in both of those cases. So much to talk about. Let's get right into it, Brock and Ellis.

Joining me now from the beautiful confines of the upper Hudson River Valley with a closer look. Brock, well, I don't even know where to begin. First of all, congratulations to Spain. Second of all, why wouldn't this fucking guy get off the stage? I mean, it just doesn't make any sense. A couple of weeks ago he was talking about do anything, but don't do it with Spain. I can't stand Spain. Now he's out there glad-handing and handing out freaking trophies. What is this guy's deal? Is he brain dead or what?

Brock Ganeles (00:59.348)
What a amazing metaphor for Donald Trump's life. He wouldn't get off the stage. He wouldn't get out of the fucking way. Like the Spain team looking to celebrate.

Was representative of most of the American people who just want Trump to get the fuck out of the way and let us have some joy and excitement in our lives. And Trump's narcissism, he at that point he couldn't even remember that he hated Spain and didn't want them to win and gone on these rants. His narcissism had even taken over his own mind. All he could think about was the adulation that people were cheering and exciting.

Mark Hayes (01:17.227)
Right.

Out of the way. Yep.

Mark Hayes (01:25.752)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (01:42.44)
Excited, so it could solve the s salve the wounds of the massive booing that he got yet again in the stadium. I mean, it was just such a so emblematic of who Trump is as a person in being an embarrassment to himself and therefore an embarrassment to us. The World Cup soured after being so great for the first three weeks from the American red card.

Mark Hayes (01:50.444)
Right. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (02:09.761)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (02:12.796)
And Trump's intervention on the last week of the World Cup was a downward spiral from the Argentinian racism, the Americans bullying their way to getting a player back on the field, which then leads to a lackluster team performance because the they're distracted and you know somewhat embarrassed that

Mark Hayes (02:20.237)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (02:39.094)
you know, their mommy had to come in and f you know, fix things for them, right? Trump emasculated his own team in that respect to the what was a horrendous final game of fighting and shitty play and boring, boorish behavior by our racist friends from Argentina. So it was very, very symbolic of and disappointing. But yeah, Trump acting the fool. Come on. We've seen it at G seven. We've we we we could

Mark Hayes (02:46.594)
Right. Right.

Mark Hayes (02:58.924)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (03:08.898)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (03:09.334)
It everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, we see it everywhere. There's no surprise. you know, it's it's it's it's no longer a running joke. It's the sad state of our country now. and wow, there's there seems to be almost nothing we could do about it. MAGA Mike on the Hill today talking about nothing left in America but the things that make it great. God and the people. What are you talking about?

What are you talking about? This guy sounds, I mean, just like an educated lunatic. you know, because he said it says it with such conviction doesn't mean it's true. and he's talking about some you know, people are sitting here trying to afford groceries, and this guy's talking about presentation he makes at college campuses. Really? Is that what you've got for us as leader of the house? You don't have anything we can hang our hats on.

Nothing to talk about affordability. I mean, and it is just ridiculous that we have let these people just run amok in our government. You know, and now thank goodness, thank goodness, we're finally going to hopefully see some justice. And I understand that England is working on tying together the Andrew Tate arrest with the Epstein files, Donald Trump.

And what's the the the guy's name who says that he introduced Trump and Melania.

Brock Ganeles (04:46.384)
like Epstein, this the Boris Epstein guy? or the guy there's a few people right in this mix. One's a pedophile, another one's the wife that had the the that they got deported. Yeah, I can't remember his name. Yeah, these fu these fuckers put it again.

Mark Hayes (04:49.186)
Yes. Yeah, the Boris yeah.

Mark Hayes (04:53.9)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (04:57.41)
Her husband, right. Yeah, the guy with the the guy with the modeling agency. and then and and Richard Grinnell, who's apparently caught up in this, you know, tangled web. And nothing the Brits would rather do than embarrass Donald Trump, you know, with the Epstein files, Andrew Tate, who's charged with what, like sixty counts of trafficking and assault and sexual battery and all kinds of

You know, between the Tate brothers. I mean, they're just disgusting. And and in the surprise that they're all, you know, entwined, the Ep Epstein, Trump, and the Tates. Wow, there's a surprise. no wonder he was giving refuge.

Brock Ganeles (05:39.848)
At the

At the exact same time that we're having these extremely high profile cases with two young black men where video and conspiracy are playing a huge role in I think there's a there is a wake up call going on insane white America about the fact that we have a two-tier justice system, something that we white people have wanted to deny.

Mark Hayes (06:02.978)
Mm-hmm.

Brock Ganeles (06:12.365)
For most of our lives. We wanted to pretend like justice was blind, rule of law, fair, just comply, and shit wouldn't have happened, all these things we've said over the year, over the years, but video has blown these things out of the water. So on the one hand, you have the Trump scenario where it's just so obvious he's being protected by the system. He and all the white people on Epstein Island who rape the young girls have been protected.

Mark Hayes (06:29.601)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (06:41.464)
Protected by the system all the way up to the DOJ level. And it's the number one topic in the potential ratification of a permanent head of the Department of Justice and Todd Blanche. And meanwhile, you have this video coming out on Carmelo Anthony, which shows he was obviously being intimidated, beaten up, and stalked by a group of white kids. And somehow that video never made it into the courtroom? It's fucking unbelievable.

Mark Hayes (06:45.632)
And what?

Brock Ganeles (07:11.54)
How is it how is it possible that we're watching this video but the jury didn't see it? How is that not the most important piece of evidence in the entire trial? And then the total, absolute chicanery down in southern Mississippi in the Nolan Wells case, which is just drips and drabs and new

New storylines that don't fit the old ones, working their way out every day. Not a crime that's solved yet, but certainly a crime that looks like it's not being investigated to be solved. And

Every white person in America just has to acknowledge that if this was flipped over and it was a white kid who died with three black friends that abandoned him but had his cell phone and his wallet and we're eating pancakes the next morning saying, you all think it's us anyway, we're not gonna go bother looking for our good friend, they'd be cuffed and and thrown away. So it's just out there laid bare. It's laid bare.

Mark Hayes (07:53.208)
Hey.

Mark Hayes (08:08.767)
Often stuffed. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (08:13.902)
Okay.

Rocket, I I know this might hurt your feelings and it's going to to be somewhat surprising, but we like I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised that we didn't see the most important video in the entire trial which which which explains why this man defended himself with a weapon.

That's all we needed to know. why'd he do it? you don't see all these people hovering around him? You don't see these people punching him? You don't see him being assaulted? Are you unable to see this? Because now remember that jury in Simi Valley couldn't see it when they saw the Rodney King video. But by this point, Brock, here we are, what, forty years later, thirty-five years later? Yeah. You you you can't unsee it.

Okay.

Brock Ganeles (09:15.574)
Forty years ago at Rodney King, White America was like, yeah, he probably deserves something. He probably deserves some kind of beating. He's probably a thug, he's a punk, probably did something wrong. Didn't quite deserve to get hit a hundred times or whatever the number was. It's clear those cops should have been reprimanded, but probably had something coming to him. That was the general consensus thinking of White America. Then 20, 30, 40.

Then cell phones came around and all of a sudden we start seeing all these police shootings.

Mark Hayes (09:45.334)
Mm.

Brock Ganeles (09:49.616)
One after the other after the other after the other. And White America, we wrote most of them off. Should have complied, could have been under threat. I get it. Tamir Rice, kid with a toy gun. we see how he may have thought it was a real gun, right? We just kinda kept making excuse after excuse, but George Floyd was a tipping point. Then it was like, come on. This shit's re fucking ridiculous. And then we started looking at everything differently. So now we

And that was these Carmelo Anthony and Nolan Wells cases I think are are a little bit of a tipping point for same white America. We just can't fathom that this is a fucking fair system. It's just too obviously unfair.

We're coming when my point is what you said didn't hurt me because you didn't take a shot at me. You could have. I deserved a shot. It's taken white people like me so long to come around. It's taken us so many vidri videos and so much bullshit, chicanery, and unfairness to finally come to this point of like, what the fuck? This system is a fucking fraud. It's a fucking fraud. Mark, I'm angry.

Mark Hayes (10:57.692)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (11:03.334)
I'm pissed. You know why I'm pissed? Because my algorithm has changed on my Instagram and my YouTube, which are my two main and my blue sky, which are like my three main forums for getting information now.

Mark Hayes (11:16.854)
Mm-hmm.

Brock Ganeles (11:17.404)
watch much mainstream media TV anymore. So those are my forums. And because we do two men in black and white, I think my algorithm has changed. So I'm seeing a ton of black creators and information coming at me from a black person's point of view, not the white person's point of view, which is the way I've been getting it my whole life. And I'm fucking pissed and I don't know how your blood pressure isn't through the fucking roof.

Mark Hayes (11:25.462)
Mm.

Mark Hayes (11:39.113)
it is.

Brock Ganeles (11:40.532)
Because I'm watching all this shit, all these incidents, all this stuff, and I'm like, this is fucking ridiculous. Day in, day out, deluge of racism everywhere, every corner of America, kids getting killed, people getting hung and hanging off of trees with their hands tied behind their backs, where there's no fucking way. How'd they climb the fucking tree with the hands be behind their backs? Like this is implausible. This can't be suicide. Right? And it's just video changes things.

But also, I'm I'm telling every white person find a find a couple black creators and start following them. I don't care, Don Lemon, Roland Martin, Reese, what's her last name? Reese Colbert, Tabitha Speaks, Native Pod. Just get a couple of them into your feed and then you'll get others. And start watching shit from a different point of view.

Mark Hayes (12:23.31)
Antie Cobert.

Mark Hayes (12:36.003)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (12:36.392)
And I I honestly think you you're never gonna think the same way again. I don't know how I can turn back my mind. It's just changed. I know you can be like a little late, y like Cuba Gennings said, a little slow, but you come around.

Mark Hayes (12:43.424)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I mean look.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean it's it's frustrating. It really is because you know I mean I understand I understand what you're saying and and we as black folks been saying but we've been trying to tell you. Why why didn't you believe us? Right? And you know, Ab Abner Lewima, right, in New York City, remember him? Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (13:13.44)
Know. I don't know. We didn't want to believe. Bad apple. Couple bad apples. Couple bad apples. Yeah, you know, everybody there's 4,000 cops, 5,000, 10,000 cops in New York. Couple assholes, you know, didn't, you know, didn't deserve to be on the job. It's not the other, the other ones are fine. They're the, you know, there to protect and to serve.

Mark Hayes (13:20.77)
Yeah. Right.

Mark Hayes (13:34.254)
Right. Yeah, that's that's what we thought. But then, you know, as you go through life, especially as an adult, you know, and then you become a father of black male children. I mean, it's maddening, it's insufferable. You know, you you anytime the phone rings at night and your kids are not home, you're like, holy shit, what the hell? Right? Like, that's just the way you operate.

In the you what is allegedly the greatest country in the in on the globe on the face of the planet. And we still worry about our our our young sons making it home. And then we worry about you know trying to get someone to believe us. And then and then you have to fight an entire system. Look at look at what the Wells family is fighting. Governor, mayor, you know, Coast Guard, FBI, the FBI?

Has come in to chastise those people who are allegedly sending out threats to the boys who left their friend to allegedly drown? But why haven't we seen an autopsy report yet for a simple drowning? If he drowned, we should have had that autopsy the day after, right? Where was his lungs filled with water? well, why are you holding on?

To your autopsy report. Why can't we see it? What are you waiting for? What's Ben Crump waiting for? Ben Crump's waiting for you. But he doesn't have his report yet. He had to fly the young man's body from Mississippi to Washington, D.C. And get a celebrity to pay for it. Because you can't expect justice in the place where, you're a well-respected member of our community. Not when you're brown.

Not when you're brown. Can you imagine what that mother is going through? I mean, there's there's no like you can't even put feelings on it. It's so disgusting the way her child was treated. And why are they cleaning out the boat at 3 a.m. in the morning? Like, who's cleaning out the boat? There's so many unanswered questions that the governor popped up to say, Well, I don't know much, but it doesn't look like.

Brock Ganeles (15:52.544)
Mm.

Mark Hayes (16:00.542)
Anything more than an accident. Well if you don't know, how do you know?

Brock Ganeles (16:05.408)
Mark Mark, I look at Noan Wells. I kinda see you a little bit, right? Wide receiver, black kid, very like outgoing, very well liked, a lot of white friends.

Mark Hayes (16:11.404)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (16:14.964)
Hanging with them, right? Like I mean you're a little a little taller than him, it looks I think so, you know, a little bigger than him. Yeah, been there a thousand I mean, but this was broad fucking daylight. This is afternoon. It wasn't even like the parents were like, come home early. I mean he's eighteen, so maybe have a curfew, but maybe they just say to him, Hey, watch out as things get later at night. Gotta be more wary of things. This is fucking broad daylight with two hundred people around him. Carmelo Anthony was at a track meet. What was it raining? So he wanted to go under the little canopy so he didn't stand out in the rain. He came under the

Mark Hayes (16:19.714)
Been there, done that.

Mark Hayes (16:25.197)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (16:44.948)
Canopy and the white kids didn't want him there. So they started intimidating, stalking him, bullying him, threatening him. Like these are broad daylight events with a lot of other people around where you where you should have the presumption of safety. And these two young black men didn't. I wish Nolan Wells had a fucking knife.

Mark Hayes (16:45.742)
Call him crazy.

Mark Hayes (16:51.519)
Unbelievable, bro.

Mark Hayes (17:04.48)
And they're now gone.

Mark Hayes (17:08.992)
He could have used it. I mean, it sounds like he needed it.

Brock Ganeles (17:10.9)
Might still be alive. Might still be alive if you had a knife. So for everyone who thinks that Carmelo Anthony should have felt safe and shouldn't have come back with a knife or should have had proportionate response. Well, four or five against you?

Mark Hayes (17:21.826)
Yep. Yep. But but also, Brock, look at the fact that you know he had a knife and then the system also let him down. Like who who was representing, you know, this kid? Like this sounds like, you know, malpractice. How did the how did the defense not say

Brock Ganeles (17:47.893)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (17:51.084)
We've got a mistrial here. We didn't see the most important video that this trial should have we should have seen that video and the defense should have been able to rest. That should have been the only witness they needed.

Brock Ganeles (18:03.028)
Yeah, is it is it is it incompetence or is it corruption? Are they you know, are they encouraged to not you know, not not work so hard?

Mark Hayes (18:11.756)
Well remember, remember that's the family that was in good, you know, with the prosecutor and in good see, we have all these connections in white America, right? And we wonder how white America has all these beautiful jobs, amazing careers. Well, look at who's look at the connections in the Nolan Wells case, right?

The the the stepmama is a judge. The husband is the head of the toxicology unit at one of the biggest hospitals in Mississippi. Right? And then you look at the Carmelo Anthony case, right? The the the the Austin Metcalf's parents, you know, are friends with the prosecutor and the judge and everybody else, and they're all hanging out having wine glasses of wine together. And and who where where is our connections?

As black Americans, we don't we're not even connected to justice and and and the assumption of guilty until proven innocent. We're not even connected to the premise of a fair trial. How fucked up is that in 2026? We're not even connected to the presumption of a fair trial.

Brock Ganeles (19:27.678)
And juxtaposed that against Epstein and Trump and Leon Black and Leslie Wexner and all these powerful white men who are in a pedophile ring who got protected all the way along, things got buried and swept under the rug, which is why it's like you can't argue we don't have a two tiered justice system in America. And the problem with that acknowledgement.

Mark Hayes (19:40.429)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (19:53.73)
Is that is the foundation on which America stands. That's what it starts with. That's the under that's the fundamental building block of America is the fairness doctrine of all the all the rights, you know, so many of the rights are about protecting individuals from the state and making sure that there is a

Mark Hayes (20:00.087)
And was yeah.

Mark Hayes (20:14.797)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (20:23.274)
fair way to adjudicate disputes amongst people in society. And if that isn't fair, then what does America really have? So what is America if we don't have that? And I think that's why, you know, we're always bullshitting and pumping ourselves up and talking about how great we are.

Mark Hayes (20:28.461)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (20:45.022)
like the propaganda fraud, instead of talking about how we need to be better, we're always just saying, well, we're better than anyone else and we're the best country in the world. Like as if, okay, well, I guess we don't have to improve in any way because we've decided we're the best. But these are fundamental building blocks. And this is why white people like me have wanted

Mark Hayes (20:51.734)
Right.

Mark Hayes (20:56.43)
Right.

Right. And since it's

Brock Ganeles (21:08.448)
To buy and believe, I guess. I'm going through this in real time. I'm trying to figure out as a n why a naturally skeptical person like myself bought into a lot of bullshit for so long.

Mark Hayes (21:20.926)
Yeah. Well, you know, look, the system was designed for you to buy into it now that we look back on it, right? Because you had the media working in conjunction with the injustice, working in conjunction with the white supremacists, and you know, working in conjunction with the notion that, you know, white superiority should be the law of the land.

In any form or fashion, right? Whether it be legal, whether it be anything, anything notwithstanding athletics and entertainment. We're okay with some black coaches, some black athletes, black entertainers. We like you know to be entertained as white America, you know, we'll we'll let them do that. but when it comes to anything else.

I mean, how much play did the African American astronaut get? You know, for going further in space than any other human being? We didn't even know they had a black astronaut on on that shit. Right? Because everyone did their best in the media to downplay it because they didn't want to upset Trump. Right? I mean, look how.

Black accomplishments. One of Trump's and Project 2025's main initiatives was to erase blackness from the history books. Right? Remove it from Arlington Cemetery. Disparage and eliminate black greatness. Disparage and eliminate black joy. Disparage and eliminate black wealth. What little there is of it.

That's been the last eleven years of this country. And we know it's been a lot longer than that, but the last eleven years in our lifetimes is the first time we've heard it said out loud. It's the first time we saw what, you know, a half million black women taking off the the payrolls in s in federal government.

Mark Hayes (23:38.656)
It it it it's ninety-three percent of federal government contractors go going to white firms. We're saying the quiet part out loud now. And you know what? They want everybody to shut up and like it. It's kind of like the opposite of shut up and dribble, huh? It's really frustrating. And it's r because because what do you do? What do you do, right? What do you do as an African American in America?

Brock Ganeles (24:00.286)
Yeah, it is.

Mark Hayes (24:06.725)
Right? White America's standing there telling pull up your bootstraps. Motherfucker, I don't have no boots. You won't sell me any boots. And then when you will sell to me, the price is too high. I can't fucking afford Now what? I'm barefoot.

Brock Ganeles (24:24.128)
Yeah, i it's yeah, it's it's the ball is absolutely continues to be sitting in white America's court to do to fucking do something, to be like, No, this is not the country that I am gonna be living in. I am not gonna allow this country be this fucking racist and this unfair.

and this and this, you know, violent towards groups of people.

And it's huge groups of people. So if we actually band together, the numbers are just really, really big. I mean Latinos gotta be like, enough of this shit. I'm tired of watching other Latinos get shot and put away your you have to come here the right way. And if they had just stood in line like I did the right way, like they they'd be getting treated differently and almost othering themselves, right? And black America's gonna just have to stay loud, right?

Mark Hayes (24:58.05)
Yes.

Mark Hayes (25:21.057)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (25:25.304)
And get louder. Because by being loud, it is impacting some of white America. You're not gonna get to everyone. But it's impacting some of white America in the way that this podcast has impacted me. And in impacting me, I'm impacting other white people because I won't shut up about shit. Right? So it does have a multiplier effect. So

Mark Hayes (25:27.756)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (25:37.356)
Right.

Mark Hayes (25:48.769)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (25:54.602)
Don't yeah, I guess I'm almost like giving advice now. Like don't j just keep pushing white people. Keep putting things in front of them that they don't want to see and saying things they don't want to hear. Half of us aren't gonna give a shit. They're fucking MAGA. They're unreachable.

This generation. Maybe they're maybe their kids can be different and can be changed. But there's a certain generation that they're too entrenched. But there is another 50% of white America that just needs a fire lit under their ass because they kind of agree and they're appalled by what they see, but they're just it things are just too easy for us to do shit. And it's still

Mark Hayes (26:41.279)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (26:43.612)
uncomfortable to talk about this shit in white circles.

Mark Hayes (26:48.927)
I and and I you know I don't understand why. And I guess it's because it doesn't happen to white kids. If it was happening to white kids, maybe white America would start opening up and and and forcing people to have these conversations. I don't wanna see white kids gunned down when they're unarmed and and following the law. Nobody wants to see that kind of shit. Right? But we

It it's not too much to ask for fairness and justice. It's it's not

Brock Ganeles (27:20.264)
America turned on ice America turned on ice when we watched two white people get gunned down. And now now like eighty percent of eighty percent of America is against ice at this point, right? In polling. Because like yeah. So

Mark Hayes (27:27.605)
Right. Immediately.

Mark Hayes (27:33.983)
Immediately. Yep.

But Brah.

Brock Ganeles (27:37.266)
It can happen. But it does happen to white people. We change think of like Amber Alerts and things like that. It's like when a white kid gets kidnapped or a a a white something happens to a white child, you know, we put a name on it and a new law happens and now there's billboards and we get an alert on your phone when someone is, you know, that wasn't because some correct me if I'm wrong, that was not c because some black kid got kidnapped, right?

Mark Hayes (27:44.448)
No!

Mark Hayes (28:00.12)
Boom. Nope. Was not. There's no Tamir Rice law. There's no Trayvon Martin law. There's no Laquan McDonald law. Right? It it it almost is like, and you know, it's it's funny because we got the last two weeks, we've gotten Argentine races history lessons. And it's almost as if America is trying to emulate what Argentina did in terms of erasing its blackness.

And and and and not counting the Afro-Latina until they got rid of so many there were none left to count. Right? They literally cleansed the country of Afro-Latinas. And right next door in Brazil, who had more slaves than any other country in the world, right? You have the blackest and brownest population.

Which is where they pushed everybody. And now we wonder why every Latin country has beef with Argentina. It's because Argentina thinks they're white, but as you so aptly pointed out last week, when Argentina comes here, they are seen as brown. They are seen as brown. And we had a fella here that ended up in cuffs in Atlanta, and I'd love to know how he did on Rice Street.

Which is the Fulton County Jail where nobody wants to go. Where nobody wants to go. Ever. Because it ain't nice at all. I don't care what color your skin is. It ain't gonna be fun.

Brock Ganeles (29:46.496)
Yeah, I hope hopefully Argentina's behavior also appalled some white Americans because it was stuck in our face of all these other countries showing such diversity and kumbaya moments between like the Algerians and the people in Lawrence, Kansas. And then you have Arj Argentina running around and like mocking like American black people. Yeah, coming to our turf.

Mark Hayes (29:53.974)
Right.

Mark Hayes (30:03.191)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (30:09.357)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (30:13.458)
And being racist on our turf, I think it was, you know, I think it was another once again where video is powerful again. Another you can't downplay racism. You're watching it on your phone. Keep keep deluging white America with the images. It's gonna have it's gonna have an impact. It's having it's having an impact.

Mark Hayes (30:21.066)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (30:24.396)
Nope.

Mark Hayes (30:30.615)
We've got to.

Got to.

All right, bro, quick hit me so we can get up out of here.

Brock Ganeles (30:41.066)
You know Bryson Deschambeau? You know who I'm talking about?

Mark Hayes (30:46.517)
Yeah, heard that name.

Brock Ganeles (30:46.9)
White white white golfer hits the ball long hits the ball a long way.

Mark Hayes (30:50.156)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Brock Ganeles (30:54.614)
He's in the British Open last week. Gets called for a penalty because he hits the ball into the weeds or whatever they call it in England. The rough, the this, you know, and starting looking for the ball starts, like I guess, kind of knocking some of the grass down with his club to make his shot a little bit easier. You know, he's, of course, arguing he did it by mistake and it's innocuous. Gets a penalty called on him.

Mark Hayes (31:13.416)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Brock Ganeles (31:22.45)
One or two shot penalty, forget what it was. PGA fans can go in the comments. Then says that he that threatens in like a press conference to to call up Trump so that Trump can call and fix this for him. That was his res that that's the white privileged golfer at the British Open saying that Trump could come in and threaten to get his penalty overturned. That's the outcome of Trump's arguing for the red carp.

Mark Hayes (31:24.363)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (31:50.176)
But what an embarrassment as a white athlete not to take his fucking medicine but to turn around and actually whine and lob out the idea that maybe he would appeal to Trump because he's played golf with Trump and considers him a buddy. That's what America white Americans are doing on the on the global stage. Look that one up. Bryson D. Chambeau.

Mark Hayes (32:13.429)
Is that privilege, Brock? Is that is that can we call that privilege?

Brock Ganeles (32:17.652)
That's like beyond privilege. That's just like that's I mean that's that's that's white supremacy. That's thinking that every shit thing, every system should work in your favor and your behavior should never be checked because you're above that.

Mark Hayes (32:38.422)
What's up?

Brock Ganeles (32:38.972)
Rules don't apply to you.

Mark Hayes (32:41.503)
What's up with that? That is absolutely ridiculous, my friend. Absolutely ridiculous. another ridiculousness that is circulating on the undefeated intranets is Taylor Farms shit show. and as your shit show coordinator, I thought that our audience should know.

That that explosive diarrhea that you've been experiencing is because of the large donation that Taylor of Taylor Farms, the owner and proprietor, has made large donations to the Trump campaign, which has rendered him ineligible for proper inspection of his food processing plants, which has led to this you know, diarrhea, this explosive.

diarrheal outbreak. so you can thank Bruce Taylor, Trump and the corruption for your explosive diarrhea and you know bowel dysfunction. So, you know

Brock Ganeles (33:53.194)
De deregulation, corruption, the decline in expertise all tying together to give us explosive diarrhea.

Mark Hayes (34:09.203)
And apparently Bruce Taylor doesn't believe that his lettuce pickers need bathroom breaks. So they don't they don't get them. So maybe they pee themselves and you know, wipe their hands on their pants and then handle lettuce that at some point makes it to someone's dinner table. Enjoy your meal, folks.

Brock Ganeles (34:31.744)
So we're gonna throw anti union in there 'cause I'm sure if they were unionized, they would be getting better working conditions. So we'll throw that whole anti unionism of MAGA in there as well. Once again, accruing benefits to only those at the very top of the pyramid.

Mark Hayes (34:37.933)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (34:51.991)
Great place to wrap it up. Revolution, my friend. We'll rack it up and do it again tomorrow, my friend. Peace.

Brock Ganeles (34:55.242)
Keep fighting, Mark. Talk to you tomorrow.