2 Men In Black and White: An Honest Conversation

Mark Hayes (00:00.75)
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Two men in black and white in honest conversation. Please like and subscribe. All right, lots happening on the Hill today. Pete Hegseth back on Capitol Hill for only the second time since this very unpopular war started. just sounding all kinds of ridiculous, asking the American people to pay for a war we didn't want. That's costing us a fortune already. And he says we need more money.

You you make it make sense. Jesus take the wheel. Also, we got Tropical Storm Bertha coming our way, but hey, no need for those weather balloons. We got the Iran war. What a shit show. Let's check in with the chief shit show coordinator in charge, Brock and Ellis. Brock, you got the Saudis and the Houthis going at it now. they're shutting off oil supply. I mean, the global oil supply has never been under this

kind of threat until the guy who won't get off the stage at the World Cup came along. I can't even say his fucking name.

Brock Ganeles (01:08.82)
So the war so the war is expanding instead of shrinking. The war is expanding. Global supply chains get more crimped, energy prices more likely to k to go up and stay up longer. So why are we there? What are we doing?

And at the same time, Hegsat's in front of Congress saying the price tag I saw was $38 billion. Saying we need an additional $38 billion. So somebody explained to me what the fuck that whole doji operation was for, where we had to cut all these services, education, FEMA. 300,000 black women had to lose their jobs.

Mark Hayes (01:31.117)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (01:56.034)
Federal workers.

Brock Ganeles (01:56.104)
The weather the weather service had to be cut, right? Everything had to be cut to save for waste and fraud, but yet another thirty eight billion needs to just leak out the door for what reason? So we can bomb Iran and a war that we didn't need to be there. I

Mark Hayes (01:59.15)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (02:14.531)
I would argue that the only reason we're still in this war and that Heges asked him for $38 billion is because Trump has figured out how to profit off of the military-industrial complex, and that's just another budget where he can siphon money from us, the taxpayers, to his kids and flow on through to him. He's seen how easy it is.

Mark Hayes (02:40.513)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (02:40.775)
to make big dollars with his bullshit drone companies and other shit. So he doesn't care that Americans are dying at this war. He doesn't care that Americans affordability is taking another step backwards because of this war, because he's profiting from the war.

Mark Hayes (02:53.741)
No.

Yep. And that's the bottom line, right? It's the corruption stupid. Dum Don Jr. got what? Didn't he get a huge defense contract too for like $500 million or some ridiculous amount of money? it's I mean, it's all over the place. they don't have a look, we didn't have a good accounting of spending from the military industrial complex when we had honest brokers in there.

Now we got a bunch of cheats, liars, and thieves in there. And you think we're gonna get an honest accounting of where our tax dollars went? Ain't no fucking I as Mojo Brooks would say, I know you fucking lying. It ain't gonna happen.

Brock Ganeles (03:48.126)
What's it gonna take to get a defense contract? You're gonna need someone in Trump's family on your board, right? Everything is a paid is a pay to play scheme. And at the same time that we're wreaking havoc

Mark Hayes (03:53.729)
Yep. Yep.

Brock Ganeles (04:02.575)
On the global energy markets, we are systematically stripping back investments in renewable energy. So every mistake being made at the same time because Trump doesn't make money off renewables. He makes money off of and is supported by old oil, dirty oil, right? So that's his preference. All the way down to coal, right? So we're paying for wind farm companies to not deploy their energy.

Mark Hayes (04:25.343)
And hold

Brock Ganeles (04:32.459)
Trump doesn't like wind farms because they built a couple off of the coast of one of his Scottish golf courses, right? We're dealing with a fucking dementia-ridden narcissistic maniac. So all decisions end up, all you have to analyze is what's in it for Trump, and you get your answer for why American policy has gone in a certain direction.

Things get cut where Trump has no interest. Education gets cut. Trump University failed. He can't make his money on education. So we're cutting education. I mean, these decisions are so simple, but yet we as the American people continue to sit here and let this 80-year-old fucking toddler.

Mark Hayes (05:04.065)
Yeah.

Yep.

Brock Ganeles (05:17.533)
Drag us down these roads to nowhere. Just this decision making that makes no sense, that hurts our quality of life and mortgages our future. And we're just sitting here as spectators watching watching it play out.

Mark Hayes (05:33.622)
Yeah. with with our hands tied behind our back well in front of our face. We can't do anything. We're helpless. and again I'd like to remind America that the cavalry is not coming. This is it. We're it. We're the we're the last line of defense here. And we're not putting up a lot of resistance. I've seen wet toilet paper put up more resistance than what we're putting up as American people.

Letting, you know, the dementia ridden toddler Cheeto Mussolini run around here just wrecking the democracy at every turn. it's it's becoming quite annoying. I I just realized, Brock, the other day, you know, the midterms are what, four months away, and then we still have two more years of this clown. Of it probably gonna be two more years of executive orders.

Right? Because he won't have a House and Senate, you know, to do his bidding for him. You know, the House just passed this, you know, Safe Save Act, right? With Steve Scalise on Capitol Hill talking about you had to show ID in order to get all you can eat pasta at the Olive Garden. He said that. He said that's an actual quote. You've got to show ID to get all you can eat pasta at Olive Garden.

Are these people stupid? Are you dumb?

Brock Ganeles (07:04.145)
No, they're no, they're fucking corrupt. They're just telling a lie to their people. They know it's not true. They're just telling the lie because they see it as a beneficial to themselves. Now, look, Trump needs the SAVE Act. He

He wants the impromptuur of officialdom to the voter suppression that he is going to institute into America. Right? The Save Act is his you know sort of you know legal way of manipulating the the midterm election and then putting in place

All the steps necessary to ensure that he is able to run again and would win again. So he's gonna strong arm the Senate into it. We keep saying they don't have the votes, they don't have the votes. he's gonna keep trying. He's gonna threaten, cajole, he's gonna do everything under his power in order to get that through the Senate.

Mark Hayes (08:08.067)
there was the same act the one that said if if you've got your married name, you can't vote.

Brock Ganeles (08:13.351)
Yeah. Yeah. It's the one that suppresses the women's vote. The Save Act is the is the fucking is the bad one, right? And everyone who's voting for it knows that, so they have to make up fake arguments like Scalise did. Come on, who's worse than Steve Scalise? Come on. He got he got shot, saved by two people of color and still a walked away racist, right? They should have let him fucking bleed out.

Mark Hayes (08:22.615)
Right.

Mark Hayes (08:28.588)
Right.

Right. And he's still doing it.

Mark Hayes (08:39.914)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (08:40.359)
We can't bleed now and we have a senator who's who won't who won't deliver proof of life.

Mark Hayes (08:46.635)
Who won't even call in to his employer and let the employer know what's going on. Hey, if I was a forty five day no show at a job where I was working, I'm pretty sure I'd have got the axe by now. On day forty six, I'm pretty sure I'm getting my resume together.

Brock Ganeles (09:07.197)
We gotta hear about Mitch's privacy. He's a public figure. He works for the public and he's being paid public dollars out of our taxpayer dollars. So I wanna know who's cashing those checks.

Mark Hayes (09:11.431)
Exactly.

Mark Hayes (09:15.913)
Republic dollars.

Mark Hayes (09:23.731)
Exactly. Exactly.

Brock Ganeles (09:26.023)
So his wife his wife is cashing his checks, his senatorial checks in the in the shared bank account, but he he can't prove that he's alive to earn those checks.

Mark Hayes (09:31.947)
His April check.

Mark Hayes (09:37.246)
RV.

Mark Hayes (09:42.187)
Right. I mean it makes no sense. Right.

Brock Ganeles (09:43.486)
But we're still cutting them as the American people. But we're not obligated to get an answer on whether he's alive. We know he can't go into work. So he can't go in and vote. So he can't actually function in the job. But we don't, he's not even we don't even get the quote courtesy of being pr having it proven to us. Yeah. Can't make a phone call to prove that he's at least alive and deserves to continue to get paid out of our tax dollars. It's it's unfucking believable. And

Mark Hayes (09:54.22)
Right.

Mark Hayes (10:00.362)
Take a phone call.

Brock Ganeles (10:13.415)
I mean we know why the re Mag is doing it, because they don't want there to be a special election in Kentucky and they want to just be able to roll into the general in November. It's such an open lie. But once again, it's another thing that the American people were just taking on the chin. We're just allowing it.

Mark Hayes (10:18.903)
Right.

Right.

Mark Hayes (10:28.523)
Yep. don't worry about it. You know. Hey, what what what did Mitch McConnell do the first chance he got a chance to take advantage of somebody dying? Remember when RBG passed away? What did he do? First thing he did was see if he could put in another corrupt Supreme Court justice, and that's exactly what he did. Didn't even give Obama a vote on his pick. Never got it.

Brock Ganeles (10:43.047)
Yeah, fucking he put it.

Brock Ganeles (10:58.781)
The corruption is so deep in America. It's so deep rooted. Trump is so he's so corrupt and has just emboldened every bad actor to act on their worst impulses for power and for money. And that is what's driving American society right now. And two-thirds of us aren't happy about it. But we're the two-thirds that are

Mark Hayes (11:03.083)
Run ramp.

Brock Ganeles (11:29.105)
Not you know, not aggressive enough. We're the we're the we're too cordial. We're the we're the cordial two thirds, cause that other one third, we see what they're made of when they don't like when shit's going down. When they don't like when shit's going down, people die.

Mark Hayes (11:31.891)
Right. Right. Right.

Mark Hayes (11:41.006)
Yeah, no doubt. Police officers will die. You know? I mean, vice presidents might die based on what happens when they're not happy. and then they'll get the payoff for it. They're still waiting for their checks. every state in the union should have that one hundred percent tax penalty on any ill gotten gains.

From January 6th. But nevertheless, yeah, Mitch, like you're not he's getting about as much empathy as Lindsey Graham is getting, which is zero from me. From what Lindsey Graham has done for the state of South Carolina and the people of South Carolina, I don't think so. I think not. And then more corruption, with his sister stepping in, talking about, well, I'm just gonna take his seat. And think sh she's entitled to it.

Like feels entitled. I'm just gonna run. I'll just take the seat. Like everybody's gonna vote for her because her last name is Graham or whatever.

Brock Ganeles (12:45.405)
You know, you know

You know what Lindsay, we're we're never gonna get the answer on who who who made the 911 call. How that person, how that person knew. How that person know that Lindsey Graham was Lindsey Graham didn't call 911. He called he called this mystery woman. She called 911. Why she thought the door why she thought the door was gonna be open. We're never gonna get the we're never gonna get those answers, right?

Mark Hayes (12:54.142)
No, no.

Mark Hayes (13:01.537)
Right.

Mark Hayes (13:09.013)
Right.

Be open.

Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (13:15.273)
'Cause no one's gonna look into it. Because we know when the authorities don't wanna look into something, they're just gonna sweep it on under the rug. So we'll get so we've moved on already from Lindsey Graham, right? Absolutely moved on from Mitch McConnell right after what's the date again? August fifth, August first? What is it? August third.

Mark Hayes (13:22.625)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (13:25.971)
No doubt. No doubt. We could put it

Mark Hayes (13:33.619)
August fourth. August August third. So August fourth Yeah, August third we will August fourth we will have been forgotten all about it.

Brock Ganeles (13:43.848)
Yeah. Mitchell Mitchell all of a sudden he'll have he'll have an incident on August fourth and then he'll be dead. And then it'll that'll be the end of Mitch and there'll be no special election and MAGA will have played out the clock and openly bamboozled all of us 'cause corruption corruption reigns in America. Corruption reigns in America all the way down to explosive diarrhea, right? Because

Mark Hayes (13:45.386)
OPNSCUDY MORE.

Mark Hayes (14:01.389)
questions to you.

Mark Hayes (14:05.936)
yeah. Apparently it's okay.

Brock Ganeles (14:08.967)
What's going on with this Taylor Farms? Like they they're they're the problem, they're not the problem, they they were the problem 'cause somebody figured out that they were a donor?

Mark Hayes (14:18.941)
Right. Yeah, until they figured out that Mr. Taylor of Taylor Farms had made you know, a ridiculous amount of donation money to the tune of two million dollars. Then the FDA had to apologize to Taylor Farms for saying that they were the cause of the bad lettuce. Bullfucking shit, they're not the cause. They don't even give their workers bathroom breaks. I mean, come on.

Explosive diarrhea just appeared out of nowhere on store shelves? And everybody and everybody that got explosive diarrhea had some form of lettuce? Please, please, don't piss on us and tell us it's raining. We already know what it is. You know? And and the person who probably put out the report saying that it was Taylor Farms is probably no longer in that position anymore.

Because you know, when you put out information, the Trump regime does not like you get fired. You know, and when people find out about your gambling habits when you're the prompter operator in the predictions market, right? Isn't that guy on paid leave? The prompter guy? I think he got paid leave. Probably because they thought it was brilliant. They thought it was such a great idea.

Brock Ganeles (15:40.094)
Yeah. Trump didn't Trump didn't had no problem with it. Made sense to him.

Mark Hayes (15:44.491)
No.

Brock Ganeles (15:45.352)
Like he always says, my kids know what's going on before it happens. Like, I mean, that's just the you know, he's been front running his own policies for the last eighteen months. So he doesn't care that the teleprompter guy was doing it. He likes the more corrupt people that are around him, 'cause then he could just play that everyone's bad, I'm bad, you're bad, we're all bad. W why should anyone try to be good? Which is the way he's he's lived his whole life. I think it's the it's the prediction markets that, you know, kind of were worried about being tainted as if

Mark Hayes (15:48.874)
Right.

Mark Hayes (15:54.694)
Mark Hayes (16:00.07)
Exactly.

Mark Hayes (16:15.009)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (16:15.345)
for being manipulated that, you know, needed that guy cracked down on to pretend like that there's some level of honesty on those those marketplaces that are fucking as fraudulent as, you know, the Trump one dollar coin.

Mark Hayes (16:27.733)
Yeah, really. Hey, Brock, bad news in my estimation for the Gulf Coast area, and I'm speaking specifically in the Mississippi area because I don't want any evidence washed away in the Nolan Wells case. But they've got Tropical Storm Bertha bearing down there. Brock, doesn't it seem kind of early for name storms?

Is it is it hurricane season yet?

Brock Ganeles (16:58.821)
It feels early, but like with fucking climate change, you can't bank on anything. It's tornado season up here. We just had, you know, the wildfires, you couldn't breathe the air. It's

Mark Hayes (17:03.149)
Yeah, yeah.

Mark Hayes (17:08.823)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (17:11.271)
Yeah, y all bets are off on that front. But but the the winds are going in the wrong direction down in southern Mississippi because that Nolan Wells case is like drip drip, drip, drip. There just appears to be the lies are starting to unravel. The whole storyline about they called for a tow, but the tow never came, but they told us that the boat was taken on water and needed to be towed. But somehow they're able to bounce around from a bunch of different docks.

Mark Hayes (17:14.943)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (17:21.772)
Heatin' up.

Mark Hayes (17:28.946)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (17:34.842)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (17:41.148)
Docks on a boat where the kids called Take It on Water. So something tells me that that was an engineered lie that they walked away from to move to a different lie. And that story is not adding up, and it's kudos to internet sleuths.

Mark Hayes (17:44.553)
Stake it on water.

Mark Hayes (17:52.385)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (18:01.132)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (18:01.609)
True true crime true crime aficionados and the independent media that has kept this story alive and going, 'cause mainstream media you think Barry Weiss's CBS wants to talk about this story? Absolutely not.

Mark Hayes (18:11.852)
Not a P.

Mark Hayes (18:15.881)
Not a peep. Not a peep for the injustice that's happening in that case and the case in Dallas at Lake Ray Hubbard. You know, they've charged those two kids with tampering with evidence. But these kids need to go to jail for murder because they obviously killed this guy. He was obviously on the boat now that we know that they're bouncing around and they're fucking lying about the tow. Right? And why are you cleaning the boat?

On July 4th night at three o'clock in the morning, early July 5th. Why why are we what what what are we cleaning? Right? And why has has that boat been taken into evidence? Well, the good thing is Ben Crump is on the case because now they're getting ready to adjudicate Nolan Wells' mother as the authority on his estate. So they're gonna declare his estate open.

And file civil litigation on his behalf. So go ahead and lie if you want to, right? And keep the and preserve the lie and end up with a $20 million judgment against you. So here's what you can do. You can lie and get a judgment held against you, and you'll be paying the Wells family for the rest of your fucking miserable lives. Or you can come clean and tell us who did it.

And and then, by the way, tell us who helped you cover it up too. Cause we want to know all about it.

Brock Ganeles (19:44.327)
It's an immediate

It's an amazing game of prisoners' dilemma because they all have to hold to the lie. All the white kids have to hold to the lie, or the ones that are innocent amongst them are gonna peel away and wonder why they're lying for friends who killed another friend. So either they were all in on it, or they have some observers who've been willing andor strong-armed and threatened into going along with this lie. And it's gonna it's gonna unravel, and when it unravels, it's gonna be a nice

Mark Hayes (19:52.321)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (20:01.292)
Right.

Mark Hayes (20:11.432)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (20:16.427)
Wake up call for racist white America who wanted to pretend like that, you know, this story had no legs and it was all bullshit and didn't care that a black kid had gone dead and wants stories like this swept under the rug. So this is gonna be, you know, we I think it's gonna be a tipping point. I think it's gonna be a wake-up call for white America. And it's

Mark Hayes (20:20.791)
Sure.

Mark Hayes (20:24.651)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (20:28.141)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (20:32.054)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (20:42.469)
I can't see how the news coverage doesn't accelerate as the story comes apart. Cause it's too salacious for it's too salacious. TMZ will be on it for days, right? It's too salacious.

Mark Hayes (20:50.306)
Well.

Yeah.

And and TMZ is all over it. TMZ is all over it. Working basically in conjunct in conjunction with Don Lemon. Right? Don Lemon's breaking stuff every day on this story. He's got Ben Crump on there. He's got the parents on there. You know, Don Lemon is actually doing some independent journalists. I've been following him, you know, for my updates.

Brock Ganeles (21:18.281)
But you can't trust TMZ in the same way. Like they already put out a report about him drowning. Like you can we don't they haven't earned our trust as an organization or as individuals. So we'll see how they perform as this story unfolds. They're on it, but you know, I'm not I'm not there with TMZ yet.

Mark Hayes (21:26.965)
Right.

Mark Hayes (21:33.502)
Unravel. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (21:38.882)
Yeah, yeah, I hear ya. and some news from the Carmelo Anthony case. News from the streets. Apparently there's a well-known gangster who has put the word out at the penitentiary that Carmelo Anthony has been transferred to that he is to be protected at all costs. The streets are now protecting him.

I'm just saying, when the hood talks, people listen. They're like E. F. Hutton.

Is happening. It this case is reverberating throughout the community, especially the injustice of it. Now that we've seen that video, people already knew something was wrong with the case. The case stunk to high heaven from the beginning. Right? You don't just stab a kid in the chest for no reason. Right? And then we go and find out that we've got video.

Brock Ganeles (22:17.63)
Wow.

Mark Hayes (22:44.765)
of the the the the half dozen or so white kids surrounding him, punching him, beating him, and and intimidating him. And we never see it in court.

We never see it in court. So again, this this ain't nothing but your regular. This brings us right back to Rodney King, right back to OJ Simpson, right back to the cheering crowds after OJ Simpson. Nobody was cheering because Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson died horrible deaths.

Black people cheered because there was finally a black man who was able to manipulate a system that was stacked against him for s for since the beginning of time in the United States jurisprudence system.

Brock Ganeles (23:35.774)
Yeah, I think there's another story that there was a seventeen year old kid who was ready and willing to testify that he saw one of the white kids throw a punch at Carmelo Anthony. So And it didn't make sense. It was a very it was a white environment. Why would a black kid think he would even be able to get out of there alive brandishing a a knife against a white kid? He w like it was a death wish. So of course he would only do it because he was under felt under threat.

Mark Hayes (23:45.663)
Right. Right. I saw that story. Yep.

Mark Hayes (23:58.732)
Right.

What?

Brock, when I lived in Dallas, I lived one town over from Frisco, Texas. It's a very affluent area. Very affluent. If you go there now to try to purchase a home, there's no such thing as affordable housing in Frisco, Texas. It is a very well-to-do high-end neighborhood.

So the likelihood that there were other black kids there, the the likelihood that those white kids feared for their own safety was slim to none, especially against a slight kid like Carmelo Anthony, who was on the smaller side.

Brock Ganeles (24:44.573)
No thinking away. Yeah, no way.

Brock Ganeles (24:53.99)
Absolutely no way.

Mark Hayes (24:55.369)
No, not at all. Not at all. And again, where where where where's the mainstream news media? I saw it on a Dallas station, but I haven't been seeing it on the big stations, on the networks.

Brock Ganeles (25:08.189)
They don't want to talk about it because they don't want to talk about the issues that are behind it. Right? It's that difficult topic. So they don't want to touch it. Because if you touch the story, then you have to, should, compelled to, address these quote, difficult topics, which is the quote.

Mark Hayes (25:12.589)
Right.

Mark Hayes (25:16.46)
No.

Brock Ganeles (25:30.907)
tricky topic of race that we keep trying to break down and say why is it so tricky? Why can't it just be talked about like any other topic and issue in American life?

Mark Hayes (25:32.813)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (25:36.234)
It's not

Mark Hayes (25:43.688)
No, Brock, because you want white America to give up their strategic advantage and to give up their ability to say no, we're gonna control everything. And white America is just not there yet. They're just not there yet. They're not there to say, you know, earn your keep. Right? How many mediocre folks do we know?

Who have you know just taken off in their careers? I know a bunch. I know a bunch. And I'm and I'm looking at them like, my God, you're a millionaire? Are you fucking kidding me? I mean, come on, bro. Like, we gotta call it like we see it.

Because of the name or studies have been done. Two resumes come in with identical qualifications. The only thing different was the name and the Afrocentric sound of the name. And it ended up in the circular file.

Brock Ganeles (27:01.917)
But can't we j at least take the baby step of raising white kids who don't want to bully and beat the shit out of a black kid who just wants to be under a canopy in the rain at a track meet, that that kid can't even have the comfort zone of just being in the same vicinity? That's not even that's not upsetting your economic order, right? That's doing nothing relative to who can afford to buy a home in Frisco, Texas. Why? We can't even get we can't even get

Mark Hayes (27:31.073)
Can't even get there.

Brock Ganeles (27:31.834)
White America to that point. We can't in Mississippi can't get white America to the point where the one black kid in the group can't feel safe being around the kids he quote grew up with, like family to him and all that shit. We can't even provide basic safety. I'm not even I'm not even getting to that next level of equal opportunity and economic advancement.

Mark Hayes (27:58.092)
We we can't we can't provide we can't provide a twelve year old child safety on a playground with a toy gun.

We can't provide a 16-year-old safety, you know, in the middle of a street in a mental episode, nowhere near police officers. Who has to be he he had to be fatally shot. We we couldn't guarantee a kid armed with Skittles and an Arizona T. Safe passage home.

I mean, and Brock, these are the cases that we know about. These are the cases that we know about. What's gonna happen in Mississippi is that this coroner's report is gonna come in and we're gonna find out about a whole other, a whole bunch of other suspicious deaths. what's the new term? Modern day lynchings. We're gonna have a museum for modern day lynchings in 25 years?

Brian Stevenson gonna have to move move away from actual lynchings and then define a modern-day lynching and erect a museum to represent the number of black bodies unalived in a in a country where we're supposed to have.

All our rights protected under the law.

Mark Hayes (29:35.903)
It's it's we ain't there, buddy. I I would like to get there with you. I would like to help. I would like to spawn conversations that help.

But for whatever reason, you know, Brock, I'll tell you what. You know, there is nothing that makes you feel worse than when someone says to you, you know, you can't date my daughter because of the color of your skin. Or you can't do X, Y, and Z because of the color of your skin. When I was looking for my first job in television, my mentor, great man at WCBS, Reggie Harris, told me.

He said, Don't worry about the fact that you've got dark complexed skin. He said there are some people that are gonna have an issue with it, but there are others that won't. Just keep pushing.

Take a look at who's on, you know, the major broadcasts, light skinned black men. Colorism is a whole nother issue in the black community and the way white America sees black folks.

Mark Hayes (30:53.175)
I'm opening another can of worms there for another day. But we ain't there yet, buddy, to answer your question.

Brock Ganeles (31:00.167)
Yeah, we get we ain't there yet.

Mark Hayes (31:07.221)
All right, it looks like we need a a a a stiff drink. I'm gonna go grab me a reposado, tequila. Revolution continues, my friend.

Brock Ganeles (31:10.472)
Hmm.

Brock Ganeles (31:17.481)
It's only Tuesday, got a long week ahead of us. Mark, always a pleasure. Pick it up tomorrow.

Mark Hayes (31:19.777)
Yes, we do. Yes, sir. Peace.