2 Men In Black and White: An Honest Conversation

Mark Hayes (00:00.846)
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Two men in black and white on honest conversation. All right, let's get right into it, folks. President Trump just lost control of this war in Iran. It is an absolute shit show. And we are the shit show coordinators right here with two men in black and white. Also happening today. They did it. They killed him. And now we heard it from the horse's mouth. We'll get to that story in just a moment.

Also, the numbers are in for the great city of Atlanta. Man, the World Cup was a huge, huge success for business owners in the ATLINs. All right, Brock and Ellis joins us now with a closer look from the beautiful confines of the upper Hudson River Valley. Brock, as the official shit show coordinators, it's our duty to report how far out of control the Iran war is.

President Trump has no fucking idea what's going on. Has no fucking idea the can of worms he has opened in the Middle East. And if you're not sure, just ask the Saudis. They're looking out their back window and they've got three large fires going, huh?

Brock Ganeles (01:19.662)
Whoops, and everything seemed to be going in their direction. And they thought paying Jared paying Jared would just be enough to take care of all their problems, and they were gonna get nuclear capabilities on the side. Wow. Killing Khashoggi really paid off for them. But lo and behold, America, are we still at war? Because we seem to have all the troops and the ships there.

Mark Hayes (01:20.834)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (01:33.133)
Oops.

Brock Ganeles (01:48.654)
But we're not firing anymore. Is that because we're out of ammunition? So we're all dressed up, but we can't actually continue any kind of assault on Iran. So we're just we're just there watching now. Iran says there's no talks going on. We're not bombing. So what exactly is the state of play in the region? The

Mark Hayes (01:53.923)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (02:13.921)
Houthis are still fighting. The Houthis are fighting, kicking some Saudi ass, but there's no strategies. There's no strategy, there's no plan. And it's a pack of lies. For five months, Trump lied about the fact that the that the conflict was about to end. What with ten different ceasefires and this and that, but we're in a ceasefire now because we're out of ammunition. We're in a forced ceasefire. It's it's

Mark Hayes (02:18.807)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (02:29.421)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (02:37.186)
Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (02:38.985)
It's a debacle. We just, you know, dragged down the global economy and jacked up the cost of living for Americans across the board, and that's all we've gotten out of this war. And we even we even lie about the casualties. Like there's no truth. We've shown ourselves to be a quote weak superpower. And Trump is just gonna lie about what's going on because he's a pathological liar and he can't acknowledge.

The truth, the truth hurts him too much.

Mark Hayes (03:11.8)
Yep. I mean Brock is just a joke, man. Like the Strait of Ormuz, arguably the most important waterway in the world, especially right now, with all the oil that is not getting through. we don't know what happened to the Venezuelan oil, w who that was sold to and where the money went. so all we're left with is the Strait of Ormuz, our strategic reserves.

Are just about depleted, if I remember correctly, from a report just a couple of weeks ago. So we're in big trouble. We are in big t I don't know, Brock, how this country is still standing come November 2028. I I just I don't know how.

Brock Ganeles (03:56.898)
Well Republic Republicans are spinning this. Their political spin is that there's something wrong with you, the American consumer, the American citizen, if you can't handle four dollar gasoline. So it's now now it's your file. You should be able it's not such a big deal. Now

Two years ago, when the price of gas was up, it's why Joe Biden had to be kicked out on his keister because he was a disaster for the economy. Here we are two years later with gas up another buck a gallon. And now it's not the government's job. It's like, hey, you know, you should be Americans should be able to absorb this because we need to.

To fight the long term battle against Iran getting a nuclear weapon. So each American has to sacrifice and why can't you? You know, bucket up, man up, pull it up from the bootstraps. So they really appear to have even punted on the idea of getting prices down. Can that work?

Mark Hayes (04:47.042)
Right.

Mark Hayes (04:52.813)
No.

Mark Hayes (05:06.452)
Yeah. No. No. there's no way. I mean, Brock, you can't go anywhere without fuel. I mean, these were the same idiots that said, Yeah, we don't need those electric cars. We're not gonna keep building, you know, charging stations to make it easy for people to recharge their cars, especially for long trips. So, you know.

The real advantage of owning an electric vehicle went away. The tax incentives went away with the, you know, the shit ball Trump administration, the clown car that they've got going, the clown car cabinet. you know, there are no alternatives to high gasoline prices. Right? We don't want any other kind of

liquid substance that makes your vehicle run. Right? We we we we're we're not even we're not even researching cleaner fuel options to protect the environment. And the thing that does protect the environment, we said nah we're not doing that. So you know burn baby burn. So now these these these Republican MAGA people who wanted Trump

Brock Ganeles (06:08.024)
Pay.

Mark Hayes (06:32.492)
you know, because of their racism, you know, are finding it hard to pay for four dollar gas with their racism. It it it it's a vicious cycle.

Brock Ganeles (06:42.445)
But can there can the leadership, the MAGA elites, tell them, hey, four dollar gas, small price to pay, you know, the we've cut border crossings, we're getting rid of brown people left and right, and we're not gonna let those, you know, Muslim, you know, fanatics in the Middle East get a nuclear weapon, and it's a small price to pay for your own safety and f to live in your white supremacy society. Hey, they've been able to

MAGA elites have been able to sell a lot of stories to their rank and file. They've been making their lives worse for decades. Pretty much our entire lives. This you don't think this is just one more thing they're gonna be able to tell them to eat with their racism. Look, eat the $4 gas. Look, you're gonna you you get to run around and use the N-word, no?

Mark Hayes (07:31.243)
I don't think so.

Mark Hayes (07:37.867)
Right. Well, you know, when you tell to pick four dollar gas or you know their racism, they're gonna pick their racism every time. I think you're right there. But you know, at the same time, you know, it's not just four dollar gas. It's four dollar gas plus their utility bills are going up. It's four dollar gas plus their food bill is going up. It's four dollar gas plus

They might be losing their job to technology. It's $4 gas plus the the women in their household have lost the right to choose. It's $4 gas plus the environment is getting worse and worse and worse, and it might suck because you live near a data center. It's four dollar gas and it gets worse because you might have a forest fire near you.

And it might burn down your home. And by the way, it's four dollar gas plus. There's no FEMA to come and help you rebuild. Not even if you live in the Appalachian Mountains and you get flooded out. Ask those folks up there who are still trying to recover from storms. What was that? Two, three years ago, broh?

Brock Ganeles (08:58.401)
Yeah. Yeah, I get and it it's really and it's four dollars plus you might not have any water in your community anymore 'cause the data center has sucked it up. So not only can't we put out the fire, you can't you got nothing to drink, nothing coming out of your faucet. I get it. It's it's they're the the st which straw breaks the camel's back.

Mark Hayes (09:06.306)
Taking them all.

Mark Hayes (09:18.435)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (09:20.719)
And I don't I mean I just watch white America swallow so much bullshit to to have their racism that you know in until I see them actually change behavior and change voting behavior, I'm just not betting on white America. I mean I watched them vote vote Trump a second time. And and even if our message board is any indicator, there's still a lot of them out there who are justifying

Mark Hayes (09:30.163)
Brock Ganeles (09:48.204)
what's going on around them and trying to make the argument that America's better than ever. I it's mind boggling to me, there's no fact facts behind it, but maybe they just feel better because brown people around them feel worse?

Mark Hayes (10:09.186)
Yeah. Right yeah.

Brock Ganeles (10:09.507)
Stuff. It's frustrating. That's how it's how society's going to decline.

Mark Hayes (10:15.534)
Brock, Brock, Brock, my friend. Like I I was I was counting on White America to get us out of this when it all started. Eighteen months ago, when the second round, when Trump 2.0 hit, I was counting on White America to say, hey, hey, hey. White Americans don't talk like that, but it's it's my best rendition. Hey, hey, hey, fella. You're not gonna be messing with my 401k. I'll be gosh darned.

You've gotta get out of office. I thought they were actually gonna say that. But they've been sitting on their hands, drinking their lattes, driving their soccer mom vans, going about life on travel tournaments and going about life as if it's all good. As if we're in, you know, the Reagan era or something, and things are just a little tough right now.

Those 13% mortgages are looking really good right now back in the eighties with old Ronald Reagan. What a Rock, what what is White America doing when when their net worth is taking a hit? Like nobody's business.

Brock Ganeles (11:16.471)
Yeah, it's I mean

Brock Ganeles (11:26.615)
No, white Americans net worths aren't taking a hit like nobody's business because most of them have kept their jobs and the their investments haven't gone down yet. The stock market is still hung in there, so that's where most people's money is of means. And the second place their money is is in their homes, because they're the ones that own the homes, and home prices haven't tanked yet.

Mark Hayes (11:32.077)
that's true. I forgot.

Brock Ganeles (11:54.112)
At the low end foreclosures of through the roof. It's harder to sell your home right now because there's less buyers out there. But if you're not looking to go anywhere, then it hasn't really impacted you dramatically yet. It's still a TV screen battle. And you know, white people have fought the screen battles pretty well, but not the street battles. They haven't.

Mark Hayes (12:02.306)
Right.

Mark Hayes (12:16.942)
True that.

Brock Ganeles (12:23.329)
Haven't fought any street battles yet, except for the people of Minneapolis. The only people in the country who've actually really fought a street battle. And if we're gonna segue, you know, white America just came came up strong in another digital battle, which is the uncovering of the Nolan Wells, what appears to be murder.

Mark Hayes (12:28.289)
Right.

Mark Hayes (12:41.218)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (12:46.175)
It was a lot of white online sleuths as well as black online sleuths. It was a multicultural, multiracial, true crime, digital mafia that got together and worked together to unwind the Xavier Wells murder, which now seems to have been blown wide open this morning by the enhancement of the audio tapes.

Mark Hayes (12:46.208)
Right.

Mark Hayes (13:06.029)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (13:13.229)
where you can literally hear the discussion of the de discovery of the death and the discussion of of a cover up. in the audio. So like that's that's I mean, after video, audio is second best. So that's pretty they're de they're dead to rights. And the and the amount of people that are gonna be in this web who were part of the cover up appears to be

Mark Hayes (13:22.454)
Right. On the audio cape.

Mark Hayes (13:41.854)
Mm.

Brock Ganeles (13:43.05)
In the dozens. Like you got a whole community that was playing along. You're gonna have the answers are gonna have to come from the parents, grandparents, Coast Guard, CETO, Police Force, FBI, Medical Examiner, Coroner, all the way up to the governor of Mississippi who basically told everyone.

Shut the fuck up. There's nothing to see here.

Mark Hayes (14:12.96)
Nothing to see here. Keep it moving. Keep it moving. again, we're not surprised that this is Mississippi. This is what Mississippi Mississippi is going to Mississippi. You know, ask Emmett Till, the family of Emmett Till, ask the family of Medgar Evers, ask the family of those civil rights workers, ask the thousands of

Of families who had loved ones lynched. And now we're having modern day lynchings. We also have those other three deaths that were under strange circumstances by the medical examiner, Stacy Turner. those cases are gonna come back under scrutiny because her credentials are questionable at best. so we're gonna continue right there.

A lot of folks are gonna have to go to jail. That's the bottom line. and then as you so aptly pointed out in our pre-production meeting, how are I I help me understand how Ben Crump and Al Sharpton are stoking racial division? We wouldn't have racial division if black folks more being murdered in broad daylight and then having the murder covered up.

Like nobody cares about this human life. How are they stoking racial division?

Brock Ganeles (15:42.946)
Mississipp Yeah. Come on, Mississippi's almost an apartheid state, right? I mean it in a racist country, they are arguably the most racist state with the worst racist racial history. So hey, how could who's you're gonna say any anyone else possibly came in there and caused a race problem in Mississippi? It's a fucking farce. But for the white people

Mark Hayes (15:49.763)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (15:59.427)
They're the best.

Brock Ganeles (16:12.301)
Person's mentality. It is a race problem when black people don't just shut up and shuffle along and be happy that they haven't been lynched yet. And they should just shut the fuck up and know their station in society and not be poking their heads out and complaining about anything. Okay, young black kid died. Live with it. Suck it up and move along. It's a white supremacy state.

And that was really the message that the governor made, which was like, Hey, everybody shut up, black lawyers get out of here, we'll take care of this our way.

Mark Hayes (16:50.764)
Well yeah, yeah, we'll take care of our own. Here's here's the the transcript. can we cover it up? Yeah, I thought all about that. you killed him. He's already dead. Is he dead? Yeah. Someone yells, Nolan. Then you hear, my god. Nolan, wake the fuck up. Inaudible but clear. Then you hear Wyatt. Then someone yells.

Get the fuck up Then you hear Damn it Bart No No's really dead now.

No no is really dead now. We got you, folks. We gotcha. Now here's the problem. Well, we got one problem that the feds are compromised, right? Cash Patel is not going to move against Southern White America, the the modern-day Confederate state of Mississippi. and

The good thing is there is no statute of limitations on murder. So, you know, maybe once we clean up the DOJ, if we could get Todd Blanche thrown into a cell with Diddy, that would be that would make my life. and then we can get this case properly adjudicated. because this is absolutely ridiculous. we knew this is what happened.

We just had to wait for the evidence to come out. You know, the the throat and the hyoid bone that they've been waiting to see and asking to see, that's gone. We're never gonna see that. But we've got this audio now. And this is gonna be just as good. you know, what where the the the organs that were missing and the hyoid bone and the large part of the throat, you know, where they all went, it's part of the cover-up.

Mark Hayes (19:00.366)
Stacy Turner should probably be convicted and sent to jail for tampering with evidence and for dereliction of duty as a representative of the people who is charged with adjudicating causes of death to a medical certainty.

She has bastardized the position because of her racism. That's the shit that pisses us off.

Brock Ganeles (19:35.276)
And how many of her how many of her are out there? How many how many people young black men and women have died and disappeared and just written off as accidents, drownings, this, that and the other thing, never investigated and there's white people that have gotten off the hook all over the place, all over the country, all the time, just as we saw police brutality up front in

Mark Hayes (19:40.476)
Exactly.

Brock Ganeles (20:04.533)
Once the cameras came out and we saw all those shootings and then we saw George Floyd, you know, culminating with George Floyd. It just makes you question so much. And you know, the copaganda, right? It's always the bullshit right off the bat. They tried to right off the bat say, no signs of so no signs of foul play. Therefore, why do we need to investigate? This could have gone away really, really quickly and easily. Because the powers that be can suppress

the evidence, suppress the story and you know, kind of really get together to sweep things under the rug. And this is this is what happened with the Epstein Files.

Mark Hayes (20:49.858)
Yep. Yep. Except everybody went along.

Brock Ganeles (20:52.161)
The pr if the prosecutor's not Yeah, if the prosecutor's not gonna prosecute, well, what recourse do the people have?

Mark Hayes (21:02.082)
Well, Brock, remember, the young ladies that were victimized in the Epstein case didn't have anyone to advocate for them, right? Because they were all throwaways or they had been trafficked from Europe. You know, they they picked a certain type of individual who they knew nobody would be looking for. And that was the the the disgusting brilliance of the Epstein files.

I I mean, I feel like I should throw up behind that statement. But Nolan Wells had parents who cared about him and were willing to fight for justice. And now, Brock, just yesterday, she's getting one-star reviews at her job. There people are demanding that she be fired as a family medicine physician's nurse practitioner. What

Brock Ganeles (21:33.176)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (21:59.059)
So now you want to run the family out of town who just lost their child? You want to criticize the woman who wants to know why her child was killed and how? You're criticizing her. Now, where's the FBI? Because the FBI was so quick to say, Lee these fine white boys alone. These white boys are good white boys. And they didn't hurt anybody because they told us so. And you know what?

We know they're good white boys cause they're white. That's how they talk down here. That's actually a pretty good.

Brock Ganeles (22:35.435)
Yeah. No, we know their parents. They were like we know their parents and they're good they were brought up right. You know, Epstein Files survivors didn't have a Ben Crump back then. They didn't maybe have his aggressive cell phone usage where if they'd had some videos out there, it might have really implicated some some people. And the people involved were exponentially more powerful. And and women tend not to get believed.

Mark Hayes (22:41.485)
Right.

Mark Hayes (22:55.171)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (23:01.121)
Right.

Right.

Brock Ganeles (23:04.639)
In this case, you know, it it it is a testament to the power of Ben Crump and Sharpton just by bringing the attention to the situation. Cause by bringing the attention, then the digital army's got going. And I think I told you right at the beginning, you know, we're a true true crime nation. People love that and this was this is a chance for all those true crime fanatics to play online sleuth. And they just unraveled it piece by piece. Now it's not game over.

Mark Hayes (23:25.611)
Right up the alley.

Yeah, but

Brock Ganeles (23:33.39)
'Cause the kids still could potentially not get indicted. That grand jury could still come back and say there's not enough. That that audio could get challenged, it's inauthentic and it was AI, that wasn't us, and you know, blah blah blah blah. Right. There's gonna be a lot of chicanery that still goes on to try to keep these kids off. But it in the in the court of public opinion, it's too obvious for the rest of us. But yeah, like you said, there might not be justice until there's a new

Mark Hayes (23:52.459)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (24:02.861)
President and a new Department of Justice because we can't trust this FBI, we can't trust this DOJ. And the governor of Mississippi has already told us where he stands. He doesn't give a shit about this being pursued. You know, will this become a big issue in the senatorial election in Mississippi? To where the senator is gonna get questioned about it. About because she's a part of this regime that covers up murder.

Mark Hayes (24:20.694)
Okay.

Mark Hayes (24:23.927)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (24:28.191)
Is it gonna actually have an impact on what goes on politically in Mississippi? It never has. It hasn't happened ever in the history of Mississippi. But could it this time when it's this high profile and obvious a situation? We can only hope. We can only hope it motivates like bigger voter turnout and maybe even maybe there are some.

Mark Hayes (24:32.587)
yeah.

Mark Hayes (24:41.559)
Right.

Mark Hayes (24:47.286)
Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (24:57.075)
appalled white people in the state of Mississippi. I I mean that might be a pie in the sky statement. Probably not. Probably nothing changes.

Mark Hayes (25:06.274)
Brock, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to wince on that one.

Brock Ganeles (25:11.213)
But but some people in sane white America, not Mississippi residents, I think some people in sane white America

Mark Hayes (25:19.457)
I've had enough.

Brock Ganeles (25:20.181)
are are moved by are are moved a little bit by this one. Are are are less competent slash proud of the justice system that they always believed in. Cause it's just been made a mockery in front of their own eyes. A bunch of online TikTokers and fucking YouTubers cracked the case that the government tried to the government and the local authorities.

Mark Hayes (25:23.981)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (25:34.764)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Mark Hayes (25:43.81)
Got it done.

Brock Ganeles (25:50.893)
Tried to whistle right by that graveyard. It's an embarrassment.

Mark Hayes (25:51.17)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (25:55.841)
It really is. but you know, this is what our country is known for. you know, the UK, the original racist, they keep their numbers down. Right? Their number of others is very, very small. So they don't have the, you know, and then then they don't have the access to weapons like we have here. no.

Brock Ganeles (26:19.639)
They don't have a history of lynching though, do they? I I don't I don't feel like they've killed I don't feel like they've killed as many minorities in in the way that we ha they're not as violent as America.

Mark Hayes (26:28.394)
No, they have not.

No, no. Not even close. And that is the that's the different. That's the difference. We are a violent, violent fucking country. And any and

Brock Ganeles (26:46.359)
Yeah, we had like two man we had like two two last shootings yesterday. One in Michigan, one in Seattle. We had two. Barely made the news.

Mark Hayes (26:50.326)
Yeah. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (26:55.2)
And and why why are you shooting up a festival out in Seattle? You're at a food festival. The fuck is wrong with you? What are you Well, I look, hey Brock, I think we're gonna start seeing more of those because people are gonna start getting angry when they lose their jobs, their homes, their cars, you know, their ways of life. They gotta blame somebody, right? We're we're we're the best in the world at blaming others.

Right? That's why we shoot shit up. All right, bro, quick hit me so we can get out of here. I'm depressed. I need a drink.

Brock Ganeles (27:35.136)
Okay, they're still playing the Mitch McConnell game with us. Apparently they came out with another photo of him and another denim shirt. And there's a statement from I think it's an unnamed physician at his rehab center. I don't think anyone put their actual name on it, which is kind of weird. But saying that Mitch is like working hard in his rehabilitation, he's not quite ready to go back.

Mark Hayes (27:58.605)
No, nobody should do that.

Brock Ganeles (28:05.143)
to work, but you know, he's going through a tense physical therapy. Like are are they just fucking with us right in broad daylight? Because if Mitch is got the energy to do physical therapy, shouldn't he have the energy to do a fifteen twenty second phone call to a reporter of any kind of validation and just say, hey, it's Mitch calling in and I'm working hard out here and

I appreciate all the you know, well wishes I've I I've gotten and the flowers and I'll keep you posted. W Why can't he do that? It's been like forty days.

Mark Hayes (28:38.603)
All the prayers.

Mark Hayes (28:47.266)
That's a great question. That's a great question. I don't know, bro.

I don't have a good answer for you. but we sure need one. You know, somebody's gotta have.

Brock Ganeles (29:05.431)
I mean this has never happened this is this has never happened in American history, has it? That a senator is just no showed for forty days and just sent a couple sent a a couple a couple a photo every couple of weeks with no narrat not a word spoken and not any attempt to just show prove to the world

Mark Hayes (29:10.398)
No.

Mark Hayes (29:14.519)
And forty ninth.

Mark Hayes (29:20.354)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (29:31.927)
That you're fucking alive? I it's it's amazing. I still think he's dead. At least brain dead. I still think this is a charade, but I w this is a long charade.

Mark Hayes (29:32.909)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (29:37.111)
Yeah. I do too.

Mark Hayes (29:44.691)
I know. Forty days and forty nights. The fuck's he doing? Building an ark? I mean, like where is he? What is going on? Jesus take the wheel. I don't know, bro. It's it's bru it it it's brutal. gosh. all right, good news out of Atlanta.

Brock Ganeles (29:50.883)
Yes.

Mark Hayes (30:10.014)
the World Cup was a smash hit for us here, business-wise. 1900 plus small businesses onboarded through the Showcase Atlanta vendor directory. That's great news for Small Biz. 500 plus businesses connected to vending, contracting, and partnership opportunities. I'm sure a lot of those were women-owned and minority-owned. 1.2 million invested in grants programs and business resources.

Great news for the city of Atlanta. 390 plus vending opportunities created across showcase activations. I mean, so much was going on here. such a boom for the economy. We really needed it in a city like Atlanta, where you know, inflation outpaces salary growth easily, you know. and you know it's

Brock Ganeles (31:04.204)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (31:08.472)
2,100 plus job seekers connected to employers through the Workforce Expo during the World Cup. 16 days that we had here. You know, the watch parties, the Grub Grub Alley, Global Grub Alley, booming sales with the food trucks, like 55 food trucks, all making money. Great stuff.

Brock Ganeles (31:33.304)
Which gets me to thinking it gets me thinking about a couple other things, let's just go through quickly that I think are positives for the black community in terms of their influence and power in the Democratic Party. I think it's a good I think it's interesting, a good move and a good win for

Mark Hayes (31:46.776)
Mm-hmm.

Brock Ganeles (31:53.218)
black people that South Carolina is gonna now be the first Democratic primary in the next presidential election cycle. So instead of all those fucking yahoos running around Iowa for seventy days eating corn dogs and going to that fucking diner talking to those same four guys that been spoken to for the last seventy years, the candidates are now gonna be running the candidates are now gonna be running around South Carolina.

Mark Hayes (32:01.389)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (32:13.016)
Didn't you talk to those guys?

Brock Ganeles (32:17.953)
Which means they're gonna be talking to a hell of a lot of more black voters and the issues of black voters instead of ninety five percent plus white Iowa and New Hampshire didn't get it that wanted it. So I think that's a that's kind of a w an you know, inside baseball I view that as a win for the black voter and their influence. 'Cause going first, you know

Mark Hayes (32:21.794)
Got no choice.

Mark Hayes (32:27.991)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (32:40.502)
It matters. It matters. That's gone.

Brock Ganeles (32:41.695)
Matters, makes a difference. And you're definitely and definitely your issues are gonna get heard because there's gonna be ten, twelve candidates running around. You know, and the coverage, the coverage on that shit is huge. It's all the news has to cover.

Mark Hayes (32:49.688)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (32:55.402)
And remember who is the most influential African American Democrat, James Cyber.

Brock Ganeles (33:00.215)
Yeah. Fucking Clyburn. Clyburn's gonna be Clyburn's gonna be like they're all gonna have to kiss the Clyburn ring. Now that we'll see progressives, this and that, but it's I just think we'll we can dive into it deeper. I think that's a good outcome and I'm glad Democratic Party went that way. I'm sure Ken Martin didn't really wanna do that, but probably got fucking strong armed into it. And the second topic is that there's some rumors that the Democratic Convention may be in Atlanta.

Mark Hayes (33:06.817)
Yes indeed.

Mark Hayes (33:29.486)
Ooh that would be huge. Huge.

Brock Ganeles (33:33.859)
'Cause where was it was the last one where was the last one? Chicago, right?

Mark Hayes (33:37.452)
I think so, yeah. I think so if memory serves me correctly.

Brock Ganeles (33:41.313)
Big city in the south and a state that you wanna win, two popular senators.

Mark Hayes (33:46.19)
Yep. And and possibly the first the first black female governor in the US of A. We've never had a black woman as a governor in the United States of America.

Brock Ganeles (34:03.095)
Really?

Mark Hayes (34:04.824)
Never.

Brock Ganeles (34:06.273)
Holy shit. Well

Mark Hayes (34:08.224)
She could be the first. She will be the first. There's no way we're letting this guy win.

Brock Ganeles (34:13.003)
Wow. You know, I learned something every day on this podcast. Wow. Typical. I had no fucking idea. I I can't I can I'm I start to say I can't believe that, but of course I can believe it, but I don't know, it still hits me as surprising that there hadn't been one yet. But we're we're a racist misogynist country, so why should that surprise me? Okay.

Mark Hayes (34:17.324)
Yes. That's what we do.

Mark Hayes (34:30.744)
Sure, sure, sure.

Mark Hayes (34:37.076)
Exactly, bro.

Brock Ganeles (34:38.659)
All right. Well at least there were a couple of like silver linings in the in the very dark clouds.

Mark Hayes (34:43.414)
No dou no doubt. All right, brother. Revolution.

Brock Ganeles (34:49.205)
Hi Mark, always a pleasure. Good. Talk to you tomorrow.

Mark Hayes (34:51.81)
Yes indeed. R. I. P. Nolan Wells. Aye, buddy.