2 Men In Black and White: An Honest Conversation

Mark Hayes (00:02.555)
Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Men in Black and White and Honest Conversation. Thanks for joining us. We are glad to have you here. Be sure to like and subscribe. All right, let's get right into it. you should see the list of the demands that Iran has now. Wow. who's the shit now? Barack Obama or your boy? Donald Trump the chump. also, we've got big news when it comes to

Electability this fall and these upcoming elections. a new poll is out showing Susan Collins underwater where everybody likes her. Brock and Ellis joins me now with a closer look. All right, Brock, let's get right into it. first of all, the electability issue. Susan Collins is is none of our favorites. No one likes her. No one wants her around. Please explain to me how she's been able to stay for so long.

For so long in that seat.

Brock Ganeles (01:06.25)
It's it's kind of amazing, right? She's been able to play herself as this moderate, middle of the road, sensible candidate, right? That's been her branding. To win four terms, 24 years, I think she's been in been in office. Yet she always has voted in lockstep with MAGA and even in the pre pre-MAGA version of the GOP.

Mark Hayes (01:16.763)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (01:23.109)
What twenty four years.

Mark Hayes (01:35.717)
Party. Yep.

Brock Ganeles (01:36.478)
Except for when her vote doesn't matter, like in the Blanche situation, where they allow her to vote against some things to perpetuate this myth that she's a centrist when in reality she's been hardcore GOP. And I think her luck and her time has just run out. I think the the the vote for Kennedy and onto the Supreme Court, where he then turned around and took away, you know, bodily autonomy and women's rights was

Mark Hayes (01:44.235)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (02:06.093)
Probably went the straw that broke the camel's back and Maine just had to come up with someone but it just goes w what's electability? How about anyone we fucking throw out there because we had the Nazi guy who was ahead of her in the polls? He has his big scandals. We kick him to the curb. Yeah, he was ahead of her. Kick him to the curb. Insert random local Maine white guy.

Mark Hayes (02:09.893)
Right.

Mark Hayes (02:14.915)
Mm.

Mark Hayes (02:25.409)
And he was the head of them.

Brock Ganeles (02:34.483)
into this into the democratic chair and now he's headheaded for about eight points. It just goes to show in this cycle, everyone's electable. Let's stop hearing about this shit. As long as your your issues are in the right place and you're not fucking like a twenty-three time felon, 'cause we don't accept that on the left. You have electable candidates. So stop pretending like there's a massive civil war.

Mark Hayes (02:39.736)
Right.

Mark Hayes (02:49.851)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (02:56.171)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (03:02.615)
That the establishment's holding on for dear life. Everyone can see the trend is that the Democrats have moved to the left. It's been it's taken 20 years, right? Bernie would argue it's taken 50 years. We've moved to the left. Everybody shift over a little bit, and no matter how much infighting there is, it doesn't matter. Any Democrat candidate is electable in this cycle. Anyone!

Mark Hayes (03:11.491)
And

Mark Hayes (03:28.345)
Well, take a look at New York City. Take a look at New York City. All of a sudden, Mayor Madani's doing a hell of a job. He's doing an amazing job. Remember all those people that said they were leaving? They didn't. Remember all those people that said if he gets elected, if they elect a Muslim, he's gonna kill all the Jews? They didn't. Right? Be remember all the the crap that they made up about this poor guy. None of it was true. None of it came to pass. And now here he is doing a bang up job.

And I'm gonna tell you what, I don't give a shit that it was the New York Knicks championship celebration. That speech that day by Mayor Mandani was one of the best speeches you have heard, bar none, period. Be it sports related, be it politically related, it is a damn good speech. And I'll tell you what, it may not be, you know, ass not.

What you can do for your country. It may not be I have a dream, but let me tell you what, it was damn motivating. It was right up there. You know, he's getting into the upper echelon, and he's just getting started. And so he and he's moving toward the upper echelon of being able to motivate people. And look, New Yorkers are some of the toughest people to fucking please in the world. And you saw nothing millions of smiles at that celebration.

Nobody complaining about the mayor.

Brock Ganeles (04:57.301)
And a low just today a local data point came out that that in this last six months that he's been in office, that it's actually even the corporate vacancies on leases has had a major surge, which tells you business coming back to New York. Now part of that is no, this had had gone down with the work from home, right? So there's a lot of empty office space. So then everyone went hybrid.

Mark Hayes (05:15.449)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (05:19.641)
Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (05:24.021)
Maybe that maybe this is a dynamic of businesses going back to the office, but they're going back to offices in Manhattan, right where New Yorkers want them to pay those taxes and to go to the office. Buy from the guy the streetcart guy for breakfast. Buy from the bodega, get your egg sandwich from the bodega. Business lunches will be back. People will be cocktailing for happy hour again. It just has such a multiplier effect.

Mark Hayes (05:53.338)
Yep, yep, yep, absolutely. And that's exactly what we need, what we need to see. I mean, hey, if I'm living in Michigan right now, I'm taking a good hard look at what's going on in New York City, right? And taking a good hard look at Mr. El Sayed and thinking very seriously right now, he's gonna have to screw that up for me not to pull the lever for him right now. Right? I mean, I'm just not going with

The other lunatic, the MAGA Looney Tune. I'm just not doing it anymore. Look what the hell is happening to the American experience. We talked about this just the other day, Brock. Like we're in it's a total shit show. And we got no shit show coordinator. It is ridiculous that America is in this dire strait. That America has soldiers floating around in the Strait of Amors that we can't help until four months from now.

Without complete rations, with no sanitary toilet situations, mold building up in the in the in the soldiers this is the number one fighting force in the world? No, it just goes to show how much leadership matters.

Brock Ganeles (07:03.585)
There's no good news anywhere. But for the first time, you know, we we we started eighteen months ago, we were talking about how there was no leadership on the left and no messaging. But I'll tell you for the first time in a long time, the Dems, and maybe it's because of Democratic Socialists, have hit on a good message relative to affordability, particular of in talking about getting housing costs down.

Mark Hayes (07:09.369)
No. No.

Brock Ganeles (07:32.576)
And in getting the the you know rent freezing rents and figuring out how to people to get people into affordable housing and positioning at positioning it as it's for the workers. So as a pro-business stance that hey you can't have your businesses if no workers can afford to live close enough to actually afford to commute in and work for you. And they positioned it and played it as like really a pro-business stance.

Mark Hayes (07:32.666)
Right.

Mark Hayes (07:45.931)
Okay.

Mark Hayes (07:57.26)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (08:02.359)
To improve housing livability, particularly in urban areas. And I think it's a good way to flip thing o flip things over and counter message. And it's so rare for the left to be smart about how they message key issues. And I think it just goes back to these younger people. They're just whip smart, right? This fucking Al Sayed is a ro isn't he a road scholar and a PhD? Like you just

Mark Hayes (08:06.147)
Right.

Mark Hayes (08:19.491)
Right.

Mark Hayes (08:28.175)
Yes, yes.

Brock Ganeles (08:30.277)
People are just smart so they got smart solutions and they're they grew up in a communications age, right? They've had phones in their hands their whole life, they've been FaceTiming and TikToking their whole lives. They're good at messaging in the way that older folks aren't. There's and and that's

Mark Hayes (08:42.779)
Twittering that.

Mark Hayes (08:51.471)
Chuck Schumer writes sternly worded letters.

Brock Ganeles (08:54.539)
Yeah, he'd remember he'd be talking about Dragnet, you know, a T V show from the seventies and people are like, What the fuck are you talking about? Right? All hunched over and doing like this. So it actually feels like there's a lot of momentum on the left. I mean, Susan Collins wasn't the only pole that showed a surprising either close race or

Mark Hayes (09:07.631)
It yeah.

Brock Ganeles (09:19.861)
the Democrat polling ahead. We know polls can be bullshit, but but in terms of reg you know, voter registrations are up, even in Tennessee, even the as you know in the South, that's a big buzz in the South, right? That they're trying to suppress the vote, but the registrations are up.

Mark Hayes (09:22.659)
Right. Right.

That

Mark Hayes (09:34.489)
Huge.

Mark Hayes (09:38.722)
Absolutely. let's talk a little bit about what's happening in Iran and the Strait of War moves. We mentioned it in terms of our flailing naval fleet, the Abraham Lincoln over there in big trouble. and it is it the Bush that's over there alongside them that's also struggling? Or did the Bush come back? One of them came back. nonetheless, Iran's got a whole bunch of demands.

Give me a rundown on that list, Brock, 'cause I'm I'm loving this.

Brock Ganeles (10:08.821)
Holy shit like yeah, they're they're now handing out yeah, they have a laundry list now, right? They want the three hundred like three hundred million dollars. This is what I saw. Like I don't know I I'm reading it second hand, right? So like I don't know what they've actually formally, you know, sort of submitted. But from what I saw, three hundred million dollars in kind of wartime reparations, right? That's just like billing America for

Mark Hayes (10:13.53)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (10:21.22)
Right.

Mark Hayes (10:31.364)
Okay.

Mark Hayes (10:34.947)
The damage done. Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (10:35.233)
breaking shit in their country, right? So that so they can rebuild everything that we broke. Then they want a toll on the Strait of Hormuz. So that's a secondary way that they're gonna economically benefit from this war. And

Mark Hayes (10:43.919)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (10:52.335)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (10:53.643)
Then the list just goes on and on. Like there's like ten points on it. I I can't even walk through it. But Trump is in the Oval Office today taking questions from reporters, and you can just see his communications team like cringing in the background. A fell asleep while Surgeon General is speaking, but he's out trying to bullshit us and literally saying the Strait of Hormuz is open and it's the US Navy that controls the strait and there's no mines and we're in total control.

Mark Hayes (11:11.629)
Right. Again

Mark Hayes (11:15.491)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (11:22.335)
Of what's going on over there. At the same time, Iran is is handing in a huge list of demands. And by the way, gas is still above four dollars a gallon on an average across the country, everywhere. So if we control the straight, why aren't oil prices going down? And by the way, our America's strategic oil reserve is below three hundred million barrels, which is really for the first time since the nineteen eighties, because we've released so much of that reserve.

Mark Hayes (11:32.523)
Everywhere. Everywhere.

Brock Ganeles (11:51.83)
To try to get energy prices down, which, by the way, did not work. So the dominoes just keep falling from horrendous conditions for our troops to massive demands by Iran. Just the last point I'm gonna make. Iran has come out and stated they feel like they're calling it strategic patience. They feel like they can at this point do nothing.

Mark Hayes (11:52.377)
Like.

Mark Hayes (11:58.438)
Did not work. Yeah. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (12:20.792)
And win.

Brock Ganeles (12:20.831)
And just watch watch us twist ourselves into knots.

Mark Hayes (12:24.299)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know what happens? The longer they are patient, the more impatient Americans become with the cost of goods and services. Right? Look, how much longer do we have to fucking suffer with four dollar fucking I mean, just imagine, bro, what's it up there in New York? What five and change? If it's four dollars on average, I mean New York, California.

Brock Ganeles (12:52.044)
But

I'm probably gonna have to fill up a little later tonight. The last I saw with the credit card was four thirty nine in my area. it's over five in the city, but it's four thirty-nine up here in the country.

Mark Hayes (12:54.766)
It's gotta be five.

Mark Hayes (13:00.641)
Okay. Okay. yeah. yeah. but you know, again, how much longer are you gonna bullshit us and telling that, you know, tell us it's raining outside when you're pissing on us? Like we're sick of it. we're sick of the lying, we're sick of the the the just out and out deceit, the corruption, all the meanwhile this guy's raked in four point five billion.

Billion dollars in 18 months, 19 months, right? And we can't see his taxes. And you know, he's on the run from Iran because they got a hit out on his ass, along with his entire family. And we haven't seen Melania. I mean, this is not a first family, this is a crime syndicate. And Howard Lutnick's company just got hit with new charges of violating federal securities laws. So, you know, again, this is a crime syndicate.

With a whole bunch of different captains and conciliates and you know, the Supreme and everybody's complicit, right? From the Supreme Court to every R next to its name, except for the ones who got voted out, like Tom Tillis and Mr. Massey, who did a masterful job trying to get those Epstein files out working with Rokana. I mean, that's the only I I mean, is that the only

exhibition and courage that we've seen from a Republican. I mean it's literally massey and that's it.

Brock Ganeles (14:33.995)
Yeah, Tillis rolled over on the on the Blanche vote. Cornyn rolled over, Kennedy rolled over, you know, they all wanna make sure that they can get jobs in January when they lose their seat, right? They wanna they wanna flip around and become l lobbyists so they don't wanna piss off, you know, MAGA World and all that money, that big money that's flowing into MAGA.

Mark Hayes (14:38.435)
Right.

Mark Hayes (14:46.232)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (14:59.765)
So it's totally self serving. So I don't know if they're just total pussies and they fear for their safety or they're total selfish assholes and they fear for their economic affluence after they're out of office, but they all just rolled along and, you know, voted in the most disgraceful attorney general in American history. And w which has really just made

Mark Hayes (15:17.379)
Right.

Mark Hayes (15:26.115)
Yeah. Hindu

Brock Ganeles (15:28.649)
a mockery of rule of law in America. And that's the decision they just made last two days ago, whatever it was.

Mark Hayes (15:34.924)
Right. Right. And the only way to get him out is to win the November elections in a ridiculous landslide in the Senate so that we can impeach him remove. That's the only way to get him out at this point. or to charge him with a crime and who's gonna do that, you know? but in the meantime the Hindustan Times released a YouTube video that says that there is no soap, no soap on a thirteen

billion dollar warship. It's Trump's most embarrassing moment to date, besides the other day when he shat on himself.

Brock Ganeles (16:11.096)
How many

How many people would be on that USS Lincoln ballpark? How many would

Mark Hayes (16:17.701)
Be like a city, like 5,500, 6,000, something like that. I remember my son telling me that from when he was on the Enterprise. It's a small city. It's a small city. You can imagine the stink of the toilets being backed up, the showers with mold and mildew. yeah, it's gotta be disgusting. Gotta be disgusting.

Brock Ganeles (16:21.26)
Whew.

Brock Ganeles (16:37.729)
With all this drone tech with all this drone technology and the way Amazon and Doordash and all these guys are gonna have drones drop in packages on our front porch. Can't we get some drones with like, you know, a couple fucking boxes of ivory soap? Can't we can't we just do an airdrop onto the ship out there? Where's the technology?

Mark Hayes (16:56.025)
Yeah, bro. Shit, Iran's gonna shoot him down.

Brock Ganeles (17:01.293)
We can't even get it out there. We can't even win we can't even win that small battle. Actually Iran I saw today Iran was saying that they're gonna Jimmy Carter Trump. They're gonna Jimmy Carter him. Like for those not old enough to remember, it's when Iran kept those hostages through the Carter administration so that there was so much of a groundslaw against them that Ronald Reagan ended up winning that election against against Jimmy Carter and then they released the hostages like two days after Reagan got elected.

Mark Hayes (17:08.229)
Can I get up here?

Mark Hayes (17:20.367)
I just tried.

Brock Ganeles (17:31.189)
And there there there's some chatter now that that's what they're gonna do with Trump. They're just gonna ride this out, sit around, muck shit up, patiently, and just allow America to get madder and madder at Trump and like sort of play out the string on his on his term. That's a long time to wait. I don't think we can handle four plus dollar gas for two more years.

Mark Hayes (17:31.373)
Right.

Mark Hayes (17:50.544)
Yeah.

I don't know if we'll last that.

For two and a half more years. No can do. No can do, bro. And see, Brock, this is the problem when you're dumb and you're in a position of leadership. You don't know shit. You don't understand history. You haven't read anything. So you don't remember how Iran played Jimmy Carter back in the day.

And and you don't have anybody in your clown car cabinet to give you that perspective because you're a fucking idiot and you fired everybody that might be able to. Even John Bolton could have told you that. John Bolton's been around forever. He would have told you that. But no, you tried to get him locked up. Then you tried to charge him with a bunch of bullshit. So yeah, bro, I mean it's it's it's utterly ridiculous.

Let's get to another point before we wrap up today. my gosh, this show is flying by. Hey, I wanted to tell you, for all those folks who think that this summer has been a boiler, you're right. This is the hottest summer on record. We are now in it. Right now.

Brock Ganeles (18:49.089)
You gotta hop to it.

Mark Hayes (19:10.415)
The month of July, according to NOAA, which we tried to fire everybody over there. Remember that? Because we don't need those weather balloons and such. hottest July ever recorded was last month. On record, three point three degrees above the twentieth century average. Now what are we gonna

Brock Ganeles (19:17.067)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (19:22.817)
Yeah. And your

Brock Ganeles (19:28.727)
But we're paying people to sh we're paying people to shut down their wind farms so that we can dig for more coal. That's that's what America's doing while we're experiencing the hottest July, which was probably last year was the hottest and the year before that was the hottest, right? We're just we're just leapfrogging the year before because we're not doing anything about the climate change. And the the two guys left at NOAA came up with those numbers, so we appreciate them putting in some some extra time in the

Mark Hayes (19:35.653)
Right.

Mark Hayes (19:47.792)
Right.

Mark Hayes (19:54.649)
Yeah. Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (19:57.262)
The empty office they're sitting in.

Mark Hayes (19:59.522)
Yeah, no doubt. and and don't forget, Brock, we're starting the NFL season, right? we're off and running already with it. The Corey Stringer Institute, not sure if you remember him, he was alignment. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, the Corey Stringer Institute now.

Brock Ganeles (20:11.827)
Absolutely. Died 'cause he Yeah, didn't have dehydration, didn't get enough water to practice.

Mark Hayes (20:22.571)
is coming out and and reminding students and families, you know, to get ready for the heat. This is coming out of Texas, you know, where it is it's hotter than Atlanta. I mean Texas gets Africa hot, bro. And, you know, I'm hoping that in places like San Antonio where it's also a bit muggy, Dallas, you know, the Dallas-Fort Worth area, Houston, you know, I hope, you know,

A lot of these teams are practicing inside. I know a lot of these communities have indoor facilities now because they got more money than God. But you know, I I just still think it is incredibly dangerous right now, you know, for these teams to be participating outside. It's worth the tax money to put these kids inside, bro.

Brock Ganeles (21:08.203)
I hope that

Brock Ganeles (21:11.735)
I hope the schools are monitoring those asshole coaches, right? Who like are fucking, you know, screaming like drill sergeants at these kids, you know, in in a hundred and forty degree heat to like suck it up while they're fucking throwing up and you know, that's I don't trust the the coaches. That's that's where I get worried. That that they're not looking out for the kids.

Mark Hayes (21:15.599)
Well, that's the problem.

Mark Hayes (21:28.111)
Well then Yeah, again. Right. And again, you know, you take the facilities into consideration. Astroturf is gonna add ten to fifteen degrees. So I mean, a hundred and forty is not far fetched, bro. We was at a buck twenty when I was in El Paso in eighty four, eighty-five, you know, field tent. Right? Where you could see the waves fluttering across the field. I mean, this is some dangerous shit right now. And you know, and I'm I'm afraid that the money

Brock Ganeles (21:54.369)
Yeah. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (21:57.958)
That has seeped into high school sports is going to push kids, you know, over and beyond the limit. Yep.

Brock Ganeles (22:03.533)
Incentives. The incentives. The the the NIL incentives and all that. Speaking of assholes, I got two quick hits for you. I'll be fast. One is you see that o owner of the real popular Haitian restaurant, Miami, who's voted for Trump now is surprised because he can't staff he can't staff his restaurants now because all his people have gotten deported or have gone underground to try to not get deported. And he lost all his fucking customers.

Mark Hayes (22:16.539)
I will vote for Donald Trump.

Mark Hayes (22:29.625)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (22:32.619)
Because he voted to get them all deported. What do you know? Can can't even find a tear to shed for such stupidity.

Mark Hayes (22:36.473)
Yep. Yep.

Mark Hayes (22:43.161)
Well, Brock, elections have consequences. Isn't that what they tell us? Isn't that what they tell us? You moron.

Brock Ganeles (22:47.232)
I know, but like

If you to not see what's right in front of you is just absurd, right? This is a black guy voting for for Donald Trump. But second, under under the story that I believe this one, there was a boat that ran out of fuel off the coast of Alaska, putting out distress calls. Lives in danger in what is that the Bering Strait or the Northern Pacific. I don't know I don't know w what body of water it is.

Mark Hayes (22:55.695)
Bro. For Donald Trump.

Mark Hayes (23:08.44)
Mm-hmm.

Brock Ganeles (23:19.713)
But the nearest ship in the water happened to be the super yacht of none other than Mark Zuckerberg. And apparently, according to reports, Zuckerberg's yacht ignored all the distress signals, couldn't be bothered, and a different boat from further away had to come in and save those people.

Mark Hayes (23:25.392)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (23:30.639)
fuck it, Mark?

Brock Ganeles (23:47.229)
on the distressed ship. So if that's not just an example of the fucking disdain for the rest of humanity that our oligarchy has, Zuckerberg came through for us again. That's a story I believe. I'm gonna dig in further on it, but if it's not true, it's the sort of story that could be true.

Mark Hayes (24:05.463)
Yeah, absolutely. And sh probably should be true, knowing that f I think it's true as well.

Brock Ganeles (24:08.919)
I think it is true. I think I seen I've seen it in a couple of different sources. I think it's true.

Mark Hayes (24:14.969)
Yeah. Hey, also real quick before we go, news out of Vegas. one man has been charged in that Tupac Shakur killing. That trial started today. Keep D, you know, notorious gangster, sixty-three years old. he is facing one charge of murder with a deadly weapon, with the intent to promote further or assist a criminal gang in Shakur's death. So jury selection.

got underway today and the trial's expected to last a month. So, you know, should be some interesting testimony coming out of this. Let's see if the diddler's name shows up. P. Diddy.

Brock Ganeles (24:57.399)
Thirty so that's a that that that murder's a good thirty years old, right? Thirty years old. And happened right on the Las Vegas Strip. Talk about having a lot of witnesses, right? Like But but they accused a black guy, so they went 30 years to chase down a black assailant. I just I wonder if that's the way the ocean springs people are gonna go after the Nolan Wells death, which is had had the same number of witnesses, probably, right? Something tells me they won't.

Mark Hayes (25:01.199)
Nineteen ninety six.

Mark Hayes (25:05.967)
Yep. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (25:15.536)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (25:21.859)
I wouldn't be surprised.

Wouldn't be surprised.

Brock Ganeles (25:27.329)
keep it alive for thirty years when it's c bunch of white kids. But we shall see.

Mark Hayes (25:30.006)
no.

Yes, sir. All right, buddy. Let's continue the revolution. Right on. Yes, indeed. Peace.

Brock Ganeles (25:37.805)
Keep up the fight, Marco, it's good. Talk to you tomorrow.