2 Men In Black and White: An Honest Conversation

Mark Hayes (00:01.122)
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Mark Hayes, Brock and Ellis, Two Men in Black and White, a Honest Conversation. And we continue the day with a story that just has us baffled, befuddled, hoodwinked, bamboozled, run amug, led astray. We don't know what's going on in Washington, but we know the American experience is getting worse by the day. folks, if you don't have your passport, you need to begin the process immediately. Brock and Ellis begins with us.

From the beautiful confines of the upper Hudson River Valley and Brock. Jared, Hakeem, one side of the table, the other on the other side. What like what are they where is the common where could the common ground possibly be? What could they be talking about that pertains to the good of the American people?

Brock Ganeles (00:55.121)
So apparently afford if you wanna if we want Hakeem's statement to have to take it at face value, right, affordability was supposedly a topic and they're looking for common ground on affordability. But this administration's stance on affordability and how to deal with soaring meat prices is to break the our own tariff rules.

and import tons of beef from Argentina, the problem with the imports is twofold. One, it undercuts our ranchers,

You know those racist MAGA guys that have been on board for the last ten years, right? Waving Trump flags, wearing make America gra great hats, and talking about how you gotta come here the right way and we need more secure borders. Those guys are now pissed as hell at Trump and MAGA because it finally came around to them that their businesses are now being hurt and they're being treated unfairly by the system that's

Mark Hayes (01:42.708)
sure.

Mark Hayes (01:48.044)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (02:07.417)
supposed to work for them. That's one side of the coin. The other side of the coin is apparently we're gonna import beef from Argentina that China refused because it was so low quality.

So now that's the meat that's gonna be at the at our grocery stores is gonna be the lowest grade disease-ridden beef on the planet. That Argentina had nowhere to go with. We're gonna be that buyer of last resort that will take anything in a desperate attempt by Trump to get beef prices down ahead of the midterms. So

Mark Hayes (02:21.559)
Wow.

Brock Ganeles (02:48.757)
In an RFK junior world, it does not a big surprise, but our health and quality of life sacrificed for the greater story of what might be the political benefit of MAGA, which is shitting bricks heading into the midterms because they have nothing positive to talk about. So circle back to Jared and Hakeem. We're talking about affordability strategies and

Mark Hayes (03:11.574)
No.

Brock Ganeles (03:18.661)
commonality and I just wonder if Akeem was on board with this strategy for getting beef prices down if this was one of the places where the two of them came together in agreement on a hey yeah let's bring in the low grade beef.

Mark Hayes (03:38.002)
Ugh. I mean it makes it it makes me ill, first of all. because the problem is, Brock, we're never they don't care how bad it is, how poorly tainted it is. They don't care what it does to our health. They don't care about us. So again.

W like I mean, well, Hakeem Jeffries claims he didn't know about Nolan Wells, so he must not know about the tainted beef. Right? Like, so you're not keeping your ear to the streets? You you you don't have your finger on the pulse of the American community, the American consumer, the American experience is getting worse by the day. Like how much worse can it get Okay, you already gave us explosive diarrhea.

No one wants to eat a salad right now. Right? So now, because that was your buddy who owned the, you know, lettuce packing farms, who didn't give his workers a bathroom break, you know, that son of a bitch should still be allowed to make money. And was even able to force the government to write him a retraction letter saying, we're sorry for you making, you know, dozens and dozens of people sick.

We we didn't mean to point a finger at you. It's obviously them. And now we're gonna do it with the beef. We already don't have food inspectors. We we've already cut ad nauseum to to to to every safety net that there is for the American people. They've already been eliminated. And you know what for those MAGA beef

processors and those plus processing plants. Hey, you voted for this. And like Samuel L. Jackson said in Pulp Fiction, yes you did. Yes did.

Mark Hayes (05:46.144)
I I got I I don't feel sorry for him. You bought this shit on yourself. And if you were smart, you would have known. See, because black people and New Yorkers, those were the people who tried to tell you about Donald Trump. We try to tell you Donald Trump's gonna run this country into the ground just like he's done every business he's had since his daddy gave him 400 million. He's still trash.

Right? But he knows how to steal more effectively now in Trump two dot He didn't even steal well, you know, the first time. That's why he wanted to get back in office. Cause he's like, Man, if I can get back in there, I can make a shit ton of money, more money than I've ever made my whole goddamn life. In eighteen eighteen months. So here he is now again, you know, heaping shit on the American people, not giving a damn.

And you know, American people are smart enough hopefully to pay attention to what's going on and stay well, well, huh thirty percent are definitely not smart enough. There's another twenty percent that's questionable, and the other forty eight, forty nine don't have a say. So we're gonna have to pay attention. We we've gotta do whatever we can to stay healthy.

Brock Ganeles (07:07.585)
Well, either when you're when you when you when you don't have the money to pay for things, you can't help but notice it. When you have like foodborne illnesses and explosive diarrhea, like there's no way around that. Yes, you're noticing it as you, you know, sit in the toilet for three, four days straight, right? It's you know, you s start to come to some rev some revelations. So we're gonna now play Russian roulette with

Mark Hayes (07:16.449)
Right.

Mark Hayes (07:27.212)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (07:37.092)
You know, the hamburger that we buy at the store. Clearly they had to get meat prices down because we're a meat eating nation, right? Vegans are pussies, vegetarians are wimps and the whole like, right? We love our beef. So that wasn't something they had to desperately go after the after. There is a side story here that there's also this disappearance of a ton of wild horses out west and a big question mark on whether wild horses are getting adopted.

and then working their way into the auctions and into our slaughterhouses. So there's some sense that there's already been this game being played of some horse meat working its way into the American grocery stores as well. I don't have verification of that, but I believe it. Right? You we know the desperation the Trump MAGA Trump MAGA has right now, because everything else is working against them politically.

Mark Hayes (08:25.736)
Absolutely.

Brock Ganeles (08:33.431)
And they're only seven to eight days away from an election that could look could be a massive landslide. And the Senate, MAGA loses the Senate, and Trump can get convicted. Not just impeached, but he could start moving towards conviction territory, and then it gets really scary for him. So they're gonna pull out all the stops. So our health does not matter. They wanna be able to talk a positive inflation story. They don't care who may.

Mark Hayes (08:51.573)
And peak and remove.

Mark Hayes (09:00.684)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (09:02.839)
Get sick or die along the way from eating compat contaminated beef. And all you need to know is China with 1.2 billion people and a boatload of mounds to feed, if they're not willing to take this meat because it's too low grade for them, then we know we don't want it.

Mark Hayes (09:24.224)
Right.

And and Brock, you know, how'd we get here? Right? This was because the racism's stupid. You couldn't hold your nose, vote for the brown lady. Would have actually had a plan. Maybe we could have come up with a partner, maybe to our north. I don't know. You know, what's Canada doing now for beef? Right? Maybe maybe maybe we find.

You know, another trade partner that's, you know, much more acceptable to providing high quality beef. What

Brock Ganeles (10:06.115)
Well, if we don't go to war in Iran and we don't ra jam the prices of energy up, which then raises the price of fertilizer, which then raises the price of the inputs that all of our farmers and ranchers have into their final product that they're sending to our dinner tables, then maybe we don't have this inflationary problem with this part of the food chain, so to speak.

Mark Hayes (10:22.656)
Right.

Yep.

Mark Hayes (10:34.358)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (10:34.935)
And yeah, and if we had better trade deals and actually had partners who we actually get along with and work with, we would almost we would certainly be in a better position. But it takes a little bit of sophistication and at least an absence of idiocy, right? Every policy we have is idiotic right now. I mean, we're in a trade war again with Canada. Just gonna raise energy prices more. And then it works its way all the way down the line.

Mark Hayes (10:45.644)
That part.

Mark Hayes (10:50.252)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (10:55.713)
Right.

Mark Hayes (10:59.947)
Yep. Yep.

Mark Hayes (11:05.183)
Right. And why are we in a trade war with Canada? You know? Because this guy, the so-called deal maker, doesn't understand what the hell's happening or what he's doing to because he doesn't know how it works. He doesn't know how any of this works, Brock. That's the that's the the stoogery of it all. No one has figured out that the emperor has no clothes and that he doesn't know how any of this shit works.

And we're sitting here watching him as if like it's like, you know, this guy's wow, he's brilliant. You know, he's playing 3D chess out here. No, he's not. No, he's not. He's a clown. He's never known anything. He wasn't a good builder. He couldn't make money at the one thing where people don't expect anything back, and they give you money for it in a casino. No one asks for their money back.

He couldn't make money at that, bro. All you're doing is taking in cash all day. And the house always wins. Except if you're the Donald, because you're too stupid.

Brock Ganeles (12:09.592)
If

Brock Ganeles (12:16.449)
If we're the strongest economy in the world, how is it possible that we have shitty trade deals with all our partners, yet we have the strongest economy in the world? By definition, all this trade must be working to our benefit because we have the strongest economy in the world. So we're not getting screwed by any

by any of them. Maybe there's a few things here and there. Trade's not international trade's not perfect. Yeah, maybe we did too much outsourcing and we need to get some more manufacturing in the US and that requires a change of policy. Yes and yes on those topics. But in the aggregate, the world economy works to America's benefit more than any other country. So it wasn't broken and by going in and breaking it and complaining and starting fights

Mark Hayes (12:49.805)
Well, yeah, for the thing I mean.

Mark Hayes (13:04.564)
Ya

Brock Ganeles (13:10.605)
With all our allies, we're now in an economy that's sliding backwards and particularly backwards for 99% of the citizens because of our tax policy and our lack of regulations that are good for business but terrible for the consumer.

Mark Hayes (13:28.939)
Yep. Yep. And and and and Brock, I was gonna say, you know, how do we how do we look back on that December in which our economy was the envy of the globe? Sleepy Joe Biden did that. Right? Because he was ri he w that's after he rebounded from Trump one point Right? But I

This rebound is gonna take longer because he's broken more shit. He's broken more shit. that we know of. You know, and and the stuff that we don't know of, we don't know how long that's gonna take to fix. How long is it gonna take to get our military back flush to where they've been? How long is it gonna take for us to replace those bases that we lost? If if we can even do that, if if those

Nations will still be our partners and allow us to come in there and fix that stuff.

And how much is that gonna cost the American taxpayer? Right? Time and money.

Brock Ganeles (14:36.163)
Yeah. Time and money. And that's money that's gonna go the money that's not gonna go to like building better infrastructure here in the US, putting more money back into education, into science, research and development, all the places we were also the envy of the world in, not so much the infrastructure 'cause we'd fallen behind. But Biden addressed that, you know, was addressing that. You know, we were moving directionally positive in that. It's

you know, it's gonna be hard to rebuild our international stature and our domestic stature at the same time. So yeah, we got a we have a long rebuild on our hands. And that's if we started tomorrow. But we're gonna slide further backwards every single day that Trump is in charge. Because Project 2025 wants to strip the country down to the bare bones. Because if everyone is because if the citizenry

Is more desperate, then the ruling class has more power. And that's like the crux of Project 2025, and it's still being implemented and and unraveled. In fact, fucking with the food supply is a part of Project 2025. Those fuckers thought of every way that they could, you know, rip away, you know, in essence, the economic independence of more and more Americans.

Mark Hayes (15:40.341)
Right.

Mark Hayes (15:52.181)
Right. Right.

Mark Hayes (16:03.541)
Right. Right. Yeah, bro. It's

Brock Ganeles (16:07.231)
It's fucking really treacherous and devious, and it just reminds me again of why I'm so pissed about that Hakeem Jeffries and Jared meeting. Cause Jared represents the fucking tearing down of America. So there is no fucking common ground with him. There's no common ground. He's predatory, he's corrupt, and he represents that entire regime. So the only message to him is we're gonna fucking stomp you.

Mark Hayes (16:11.754)
It's disgusting.

Mark Hayes (16:21.441)
Right.

Mark Hayes (16:24.949)
No.

Mark Hayes (16:32.597)
Mm-hmm.

Brock Ganeles (16:36.203)
And we're coming after you legally after we do. That's it. There's no common ground with him. And don't pretend like politically there's some benefit to the conversation. We're not here for it. He's the one percent. He's out for the oligarchs. He's out for the Saudis. He's out for the Israelis. He is not for the American people. So side pocket discussion underneath the you know.

Mark Hayes (16:42.807)
Right.

Mark Hayes (16:56.086)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (16:59.957)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (17:05.761)
in the shadows, there's nothing there for us.

Mark Hayes (17:09.813)
No, no, not at all. Not at all. And then we were dovetailing this story, you know, with with the affordability issue. and we know Jared doesn't give a shit about America and America's affordability problems. He doesn't have an affordability problem, his brother doesn't have an affordability problem, his wife doesn't have an affordability problem. You know, someone delivers their groceries. They haven't even been to the grocery store in what? 10 years, 12 years, 15 years, who knows?

But they don't go to the grocery store. They don't shop for themselves. You know, their nephew doesn't have an affordability problem. He made $150 million this year, Barron did. as an out-of- out of class out out of school, you know, college dropout. Made 150 mil. I want it back, Brock. I want it all back.

Brock Ganeles (18:01.513)
Mark, I gotta say, I I don't wanna hear one more fucking word about that first step fucking project that supposedly went on and was such a huge boon for the black community and this, that, and the other thing, and Van Jones fucking raves about it, and yeah, we've worked with Jared before, right? Corey Booker talks about it. Stop. That was a fucking meaningless, toothless fucking legislation that hasn't done shit for anyone's lives. Right? No no one's benefited. No one's

Mark Hayes (18:16.567)
Ryan energy.

Mark Hayes (18:27.426)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (18:29.675)
Has it has the benef has there been a benefit to anyone but the 1%? No. That was fucking window dressing. And all those fuckers played along like it was some huge accomplishment. They accomplished fucking nothing with Jared compared to the billions, hundreds of billions of dollars in corrupt money that has been taken by Trump, the family, Kushner, and the whole fucking cadre behind them.

Mark Hayes (18:42.071)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (18:57.527)
So I'm sick of hearing about this fucking great accomplishment everyone pretends like they had. First steps of fucking fraud.

Mark Hayes (19:02.495)
Right. yeah. Without question. Brock, another disturbing song story is you know racing across the internet this afternoon. have you seen the the Facebook group White and Proud? They're back at it again. And apparently this time they are urging their Texas Roadhouse and Logan's Logan's some sort of restaurant.

whatever it is, Logan's fast food, Logan's sit down, you know, come dine with us, type of place. Good old country home cooking. they're urging their white workers to spit in the food of black customers when they come in to dine at those restaurants. So apparently the group has four hundred thousand members. you know, it's going strong. Texas Roadhouse put out a statement.

whatever the fucking statement is, I mean, why are you putting out a statement instead of firing people? you should be able to figure out who those people are if you've seen the the screenshot of the post. Apparently there's quite a few black people in the white and proud hate group on Facebook. Just the fact that it's allowed to exist.

is somewhat of a problem, but it's Fuckerberg, so w you know, what are we gonna do about it? I mean, he helped overthrow an election. We don't give like we're not expecting any semblance of morality from that fucking clown. he's the guy that wouldn't stop and help a fucking sinking ship in the middle of the fucking Bering Strait because his yacht was too important to get a scuff on the side of the bow, fucker. but yeah, Brock, any any thoughts on

that kind of fuckery and how you know, the hate is just getting to disrespectful of I mean, this thing's gone viral. It was the first thing like one of the first things I saw when I jumped on my Instagram this afternoon.

Brock Ganeles (21:12.523)
I did see that story. I wasn't sure that was the one you were referring to, but yeah, I did see that story. I mean my first reaction was if I'm if I'm a black person, I'm never stepping foot in either of those restaurants ever again. I don't care what fucking statement the company put out. There's other options. Right? That's probably on one of those streets with a strip mall that's got like ten restaurants that are basically the exact same. Find one that you can possibly even tangentially align with their values.

Mark Hayes (21:27.073)
Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (21:41.548)
And that's where you spend your time and money. Just cut them the fuck off until they fucking clean up their house. So to me, y economic boycotting really has to be part of our everyday lives. Cause there has to be some we have to s you have to inflict some pain on people who treat you with such disrespect or allow their employees to treat you with such disrespect. That's number one.

Mark Hayes (21:44.349)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Mark Hayes (21:57.952)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (22:11.223)
Number two, it's just like, you know, MAGA mainstreamed racism. So I'm not surprised by any story that is blatantly racist. Cause there's just a there's just a slice of America that feeds off it. It's the most important thing in their lives. It gives them some semblance of comfort that their life isn't as shitty as they may think it is.

Because they can make someone else's life shittier. So that's that's all they have, that's what they hang their hat on. And sadly, it's a good that's the thirty percent of America that is still pro approving of Trump.

Mark Hayes (22:53.715)
Right. Right. And it's disgusting. I have never eaten in those restaurants to date, but I will, you know, I won't be going any time this lifetime. yeah. And I mean, why would we have a tough time believing it? I mean, these restaurants apparently, you know, seem to think that there was some reason why people wouldn't believe it.

Look at the state of play in this country. Like, this is not far fetched. That the fact you have a white and proud hate group on Facebook that's spewing different ways to get back. And black is by the way, it's crime to spin people's food. You know? It's fucking crime.

Brock Ganeles (23:41.368)
Yeah. So fucking it's it's not beyond disgusting, it's particularly unhealthy. It's assault to spit in somebody's face. Because your saliva who knows what fucking you know, foodborne illness you have in your saliva from eating the fucking steak to begin with. So yeah, it's fucking illegal.

Mark Hayes (23:48.438)
Right.

Mark Hayes (23:52.823)
Copy.

Mark Hayes (23:57.269)
Right. Or or yeah, or if you've got explosive diarrhea, you know, those germs hanging around in your mouthpiece. yeah, it's ridiculous.

Brock Ganeles (24:09.421)
Well well Mark, in a country where we're having hangings, you know, not everyone has the fucking you know, that much violence in but they still have the hatred, so they they have a different way of expressing it. And so this is their way of expressing it. So d it doesn't surprise me in the least. It only reinforces the fact that we all have to act in a way that's consistent with our own, you know, morality.

Mark Hayes (24:13.539)
Right.

Mark Hayes (24:27.384)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (24:39.327)
And our own outlook on fairness in the society that we want, and we have to overwhelm this aspect of society. We just have to push them to the corners. They have to lose jobs, they have to lose influence, they have to stop being supported like Karen's are, and they have to be forced to act in a different way because society does not accept

Mark Hayes (24:39.555)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (25:08.269)
their racism.

Mark Hayes (25:10.048)
Right. Because it's it's

Brock Ganeles (25:11.097)
It's gonna take a long time to get there, but that has to be the mindset.

Mark Hayes (25:15.276)
Yeah, especially with the kind of parents that we're dealing with now. I mean, we're just dealing with complete idiots. I saw a lady attack a kid at a wrestling match because her kid was losing. She rolled over on the mat and grabbed the other combatant and rolled him over so her son would be on top in the wrestling position.

Brock Ganeles (25:38.584)
Yeah, you see, like Austin Metcalf's parents, right? You see how he became such a degenerate piece of shit, right? He was taught from the moment he came out of the womb. Yeah, there's other story on like that sixteen-year-old girl ran out of the stands and ran over the thirteen year old kid in the fi football game and the parents are defending your actions. Like, I was just angry and I blanked out. Like, okay, you're f that make that's the talk of like a psychopath. Like how can we trust you in society? So anytime you get angry, you're gonna blank out?

Mark Hayes (25:44.257)
Right.

Right.

Mark Hayes (26:03.426)
Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (26:06.871)
God forbid you get your driver's license, because then now you're a fucking road rage maniac, right? So like how are you trusted in society? You know, that's not acceptable. Go to fucking therapy to become a citizen that the rest of us can feel comfortable around. Hey, you know, but

Mark Hayes (26:23.574)
And right. Well, and Brock that that sixteen year old, again, the media's influence, they interviewed her to get her side of the story.

Brock Ganeles (26:35.287)
Her side of it. Yeah, her side we got her explanation on wh why she did it. And her justification. No learning curve either. Right? There's no learning curve and no expectation of a learning curve. It's just like you got angry and you couldn't control yourself? okay, we can see we see how that can happen. That's that's how we get fucking school shooters, right? Like we're just like, yeah, you got angry, you grabbed the gun from the father's drawing you killed ten people. Ooh. Like that's like

Mark Hayes (26:37.746)
What the fuck is that?

Mark Hayes (26:43.97)
No.

No.

Brock Ganeles (27:03.095)
Like white people aren't taken to task for behavior that's so out of bounds in a civil society. But we've become an uncivil society. That's what MAGA has brought to America is to make it an uncivil society.

Mark Hayes (27:11.777)
Right.

Mark Hayes (27:19.212)
Yeah.

Yep. And brah.

The white America is so busy pointing the finger at the them. Right? It ain't us. It's them. Let's get rid of them. We need to get rid of some of these jackasses. How about we start deporting some of these, you know, ridiculous criminals who were just out here doing the most ridiculous things. I mean, it it is. I mean, like this shit is crazy. 81%.

Of school shooters are young white men. Eighty one percent. But

Brock Ganeles (28:03.617)
I would have thought higher. I mean I guess there's been a couple of Latinos. I can't remember I can't remember a black kid.

Mark Hayes (28:10.026)
I don't remember it about it. Hey, shit, I don't remember any black kids doing that. Of course none of them got shot by the police. So it couldn't have been any black kids. Yeah, I

Brock Ganeles (28:14.037)
Or a woman.

I guess there've been a couple of girls. Yeah, I mean and that's and this this is the party of like family values and all that horse shit and it was all a fraud. Just like their concerns about debt were a fraud. The family values have been a fraud, the religion's a fraud. I mean it is white supremacy to the core. It's excusing behavior of some and rule of law for everyone else.

Mark Hayes (28:33.474)
Right.

Mark Hayes (28:45.12)
Right. Right. And and the hypocrisy is maddening. The hypocrisy is what what makes, you know, James James Baldwin and and Josephine Baker and and Richard Wright and all the intellects and entertainment icons of the early twentieth century century leave this country.

To go to Europe only to be embraced and loved and not have to deal with the ire of people's racism and and the animus of just living in their own skin. You can't even live in your own skin here.

Brock Ganeles (29:28.599)
Yeah, certainly not the violence.

Certainly not the violence we have here, even if there is the racism there. All right, let's right, we gotta get we gotta get to this w I've chomping at the bit. We gotta talk. We gotta get to the shared quick hit, the San Francisco Forty Niners owner.

Mark Hayes (29:38.006)
Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (29:52.499)
And his arrest in rural Pennsylvania?

Mark Hayes (29:56.589)
Palestine. Palestine. Yeah. Palestine, Ohio.

I I I I Brock, I wonder how a man owns a football team with this kind of decision-making skills. You know, he jumped in his, you know, whatever, hundred thousand dollar car and drove it to a mobile home community, not a trailer park. There's a difference. I don't know what the difference is. but he was soliciting prostitution, got cuffed and stuffed.

And got caught up in a sting there and like what what are you doing, bro? Like you don't you don't have any better ideas than to you know, roll through the poorest part of the city looking for, you know, a quickie? Like what what's your decision making?

Brock Ganeles (30:50.669)
A hundred and forty dollars. Yeah, a hundred and forty dollars.

Okay, first off, I'll say this again that I am for the legalization of prostitution. I think it's a victimless crime and I don't care. It could be a regulated industry for all I care. I don't I'm not bringing some moral stance into this. Fine by me, two consenting adults doing a financial transaction to the you know satisfaction and enjoyment of all parties. Fine.

Mark Hayes (31:10.477)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (31:25.037)
That's not where we are as a society. It is it is a crime. But yeah, like get to get back to the so if you're worth 300 million dollars, you're gonna go into that type of situation with your ten thousand dollar Rolex and probably carrying ten grand and cash on you to have a hundred and forty dollar you know encounter in a mobile home community is just absolutely mind-boggling. Like I've said to you.

What's the point of having two hundred million dollars if you're not going to meet your hookers at either the penthouse at the Wynn Hotel or perhaps at the Kit Kat Club in New York City where you can meet some of the finest prostitutes in the world that have been imported in from your good friend Jeffrey Epstein and others.

Mark Hayes (32:09.464)
Can we can we

Mark Hayes (32:16.491)
Yeah.

Yeah, they've they've been vetted. they were select. And you know, as an owner of the Forty Niners, you've got access. You know, I would imagine that he could afford the Lolita Express to Epstein Island. However, it is operations have ceased as far as we know. but you know what, Brock? And I'm sure this will make the Epstein victims cringe when they read this story, because they know

There's not gonna be excuse me, any real repercussions for this guy. Too close to too many people of power. Only thirty two NFL owners.

Brock Ganeles (32:58.401)
No, he cut a check, yeah. Yeah, small fine. Did he I don't know, I'm sure he was in jail overnight. But yeah, what what this really shows us is where where even the wealthiest people have to go now these days for their debauchery now that Epstein Island is shut down. Cause ten years ago, this guy may have been on the Lolita Express to a weekend in in on Epstein Island. Instead, he finds himself in a trailer park in rural Ohio.

Mark Hayes (33:04.578)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (33:12.438)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (33:28.023)
Because there is no Jeffrey Epstein anymore and no Ghlaine Maxwell and no trafficking of fourteen year old girls across the US. So this is this is how things shake out in a post Epstein environment. But like you said, as usual, slap on the wrist at at best and just but just bizarre and dangerous decision making.

Mark Hayes (33:37.633)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (33:56.622)
Which just goes to show having money doesn't make you smarter. It's like Elon Musk. People think he's a genius 'cause he has a lot of money. Like, no, these fucking guys are racist Nazi fucking knucklehead. And I'm gonna throw this San Francisco Forty Niners owner into a into something of a similar bucket.

Mark Hayes (34:00.783)
Are you like?

Mark Hayes (34:07.0)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (34:17.1)
Yeah. Yeah, except I don't know if he would have been on Epstein's list. He's not, you know, super duper rich at two hundred and fifty mil. I don't know if he can afford, you know, the the the trinkets and such that are necessary to to put yourself in that class. But, you know, who knows? I I I wouldn't know, you know, I haven't been you know, invited to any of those situations.

Brock Ganeles (34:47.651)
Two weeks after the head coach of the Niners got in a car accident under extremely mysterious circumstances in a in an in a situation that appears to have gotten covered up really, really quickly in terms of what was really going on in his vehicle during the time of that crash. So

Mark Hayes (34:47.778)
Thank goodness.

Brock Ganeles (35:11.585)
I don't know, you know, you know I hate you know I hate the NFL and I'm just curious to see how the league how many things the league's gonna just sweep under the rug.

Mark Hayes (35:12.259)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (35:15.779)
You know.

Mark Hayes (35:21.878)
Yeah. You know.

Brock Ganeles (35:22.681)
'Cause 'cause 'cause America only cares about Sundays. America cares about their Sundays, but I gotta say, it's gonna be a very, very difficult fall for tailgate parties. 'Cause people bringing those grills out there and they're gonna be flipping that Argentina subpar beef. We're gonna have some serious problems at some stadiums around the NFL this year.

Mark Hayes (35:26.369)
Yes indeed.

Mark Hayes (35:37.998)
What are they gonna be cooking?

Mark Hayes (35:43.288)
What are they cooking? Gonna be a lot of sausage eating. I can tell you that. Deshaun sent Deshaun Watson named Brown's quarterback more on that story tomorrow, just how absurd that is. But we will holler at you folks tomorrow. Brock Revolution will not be televised.

Brock Ganeles (36:02.425)
Stay safe out there, Mark. No grilling this weekend. Pasta. Rice and pasta.

Mark Hayes (36:06.064)
Absolutely not.

You know it, peace.

Brock Ganeles (36:10.692)
No further notice. No meat, no vegetables. Can't do them anymore. Not in America. Not in Donald Trump's America. It's too risky.