2 Men In Black and White: An Honest Conversation

BROCK GANELES (00:00.439)
talk about that can help us or maybe at the beginning we just hit him with it? are we going live? Are we gonna go live today?

Mark Hayes (00:03.23)
All right, here, let's do it. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. We're live, we're live. We're making it happen. No? Are we live? Let me check in upstairs, General Manager's office and see if we're live here. Where are we? On a Wednesday morning after just a horrific, horrific State of the Union address, we are Two Minute Black and White. I'm Mark Hayes, your host, along with Brock Adellas from the beautiful confines of.

BROCK GANELES (00:09.737)
No, I don't... Are we live? It doesn't show it's live.

Mark Hayes (00:32.162)
the Upper Hudson River Valley. And Brock, we are just a couple of friends who have known each other forever in a day. And we go back all the way to grade school. And what we are doing is trying to have an honest conversation between the black and white communities through those lenses. And Brock, I don't care if you're green. Last night was ridiculous. The worst.

State of the Union speech, there was no way I was gonna watch this moron sit up there for two hours and not even pontificate, just spew hatred and go with the same old daily hits. He's living in some alternative universe when he talks about the economy. This guy's nuts. What are we doing with this guy in charge?

BROCK GANELES (01:19.991)
Well clearly we talked about two days ago, right? We were boycotting, right? There was no chance in hell I was watching a minute of that. Now I did see a lot of the commentary today from what he had said and the quotes. But it was a pack of lies, right? mean, gas at a buck, what'd he say? Buck 70, buck 80 on the gas. There's no fucking place in the country you can find that. I don't know what he's talking about.

Mark Hayes (01:35.341)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (01:47.753)
mortgage rates being down and how affordable it is for housing now. Like he was just making stuff up that just don't connect to anyone's reality. So I just don't see how those lies, who those lies are resonating with. Right. Even bragged about how he had lifted people out of food stamps as a way of explaining that he cut food stamps. guess that's a quote that's lifting out.

Mark Hayes (01:59.221)
Right.

Mark Hayes (02:04.831)
Right.

Mark Hayes (02:12.576)
Hehehehehe

BROCK GANELES (02:18.734)
They've been lifted out of food stamps into starvation and he was like bragging about that as an accomplishment. So I mean he didn't have much to run on. He went into it with a weak hand. I think he just decided he was gonna test his own filibuster skills and just talk us to death so that no one would push back. But my sense, he didn't come out of it any stronger than he went into it. It was kind of enough.

Mark Hayes (02:27.499)
Rock!

Mark Hayes (02:40.071)
Yeah.

BROCK GANELES (02:47.401)
My read is nothing burger. What do you think?

Mark Hayes (02:50.087)
Absolutely. you know why? Brock, what's one of the things that almost all of our presidents have had in common, unlike this buffoon? He has no ability to inspire. He doesn't move anyone. He doesn't persuade anybody anymore. You know, he persuaded, you know...

Joe Rockhead and those folks from the 5 % of the Oath Keepers, whatever those clowns are. No one cares, right? No one cares what he has to say. These people are so afraid of him, they're just trying to stay out of his way. He doesn't persuade you to want to be on his side. He doesn't inspire you to do anything positive, right? He's not a great orator, orator.

And as a president of the free world, you must possess that property. He ain't got it. He ain't got it. And he has no one in his corner who has it. So he's getting the worst possible help to being the worst possible president. He has nothing. He's got no tools in the toolbox. He got a bunch of tools working for him. But he has no one who can guide him.

on policy, on performance, on personality. He's got none of it.

BROCK GANELES (04:25.451)
I feel like when he was doing those rallies, when he was running for president, he was able to inspire at least a portion of America, really rabid, racist, white America into this belief that he was going to make the country better by basically getting rid of brown people, which that crowd loved to hear. Right. So they got, you know, deport now waving those signs at the convention. Right. That there was this sense that

Mark Hayes (04:36.619)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (04:48.107)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (04:55.029)
He was going to quote, fix the economy, even though it was doing great, wasn't doing great for everybody. Prices were up in the last two years, the Biden era. was a problem headed into the Trump was able to exploit. So he was able to rally people, but now we're a year plus into Trump two. and I think the realization has seeped in with all the horrendous policies that

Mark Hayes (05:19.243)
Mm.

BROCK GANELES (05:25.301)
The MAGA movement doesn't work for the majority of people, even white people, and they only working for a small portion. So therefore that's where the inspiration has fizzled because the message hasn't connected to anyone's reality.

Mark Hayes (05:35.454)
Do that!

BROCK GANELES (05:49.731)
And so I think he's lost it. I don't think he can get it back. think we, I think we said he lost it like six months ago, but it's just been this slow bleed downward or this slow realization of America that he's really lost. Like he's lost his fastball. He's not, he's not the player he was and he's made the country worse. And it's just becoming obvious to greater numbers of people that he's made things worse.

Mark Hayes (05:57.321)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (06:19.563)
and that's why his approval sucks.

Mark Hayes (06:19.785)
Right. Right?

BROCK GANELES (06:24.287)
He couldn't turn it around with his speech. He's not good enough at it anymore.

Mark Hayes (06:26.45)
No, no. And let me push back a little bit. At those rallies, you call that, what you call hate speech inspirational? I don't know that Hitler was inspiring Nazi soldiers in the SS. I mean, they knew they had to carry out their orders or what? could be, they could get gassed too.

BROCK GANELES (06:31.882)
Okay.

Mark Hayes (06:55.783)
You know?

You know, inspiring people to engage in brutality, I don't know that we can call that inspiration. I have to look up the definition of what's inspirational.

BROCK GANELES (07:07.413)
Yeah, inspiration is probably too positive a word for it. But there is, yeah, I mean, when you're playing into the worst of people and in essence pulling the worst out of them, I mean, it's more intimidation. But it struck a chord with enough people that they're on board to want to get the ball rolling, at least.

Mark Hayes (07:11.139)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (07:22.673)
Right.

Mark Hayes (07:33.838)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (07:35.093)
But at, you know, and to go back to, know, and, and, had like fond memories of Trump one. you know, somehow, you know, he was bringing them back to that glorious time of four years before Joe Biden. So there was something, there was something there for.

Mark Hayes (07:44.03)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (07:55.095)
You know, at the time it was around 40 % of America and now it feels like that's slid back to mid to low 30s, which is a lot of people, right? That's 10, 20 million people that have peeled away. But State of the Union is supposed to give presidents a bump and I don't get a sense that Trump came out of that with really much of anything, do you?

Mark Hayes (07:58.58)
Right.

Mark Hayes (08:07.72)
Yeah.

BROCK GANELES (08:22.379)
mean was MAGA WORLD maybe excited about something they heard? don't even I don't know. I like MAGA WORLD is disgruntled and

Mark Hayes (08:22.644)
No.

Mark Hayes (08:27.953)
Nah bro.

And hungry, MAGA world is hungry. They're not eating. What about those people out in Nebraska where the meat plant closed, right? The meat processing plant. Those people are struggling. People around the US are struggling. And just because the Trump administration regime doesn't want to give us the correct data, right? The right numbers doesn't mean it ain't happening.

Just because you don't report it doesn't mean it ain't happening. And it's happening everywhere. You see it. You see stores being shut down. You see people being laid off. You see prices getting higher, right? Racism doesn't taste so good. You can't eat it. Can't eat it, right? So, you know, even white America is saying, wait a minute.

Did we sign up for this? Did we sign up to be hungry? I don't know. You know, there seems to be an awful lot of buyers remorse for Trump 2.0.

BROCK GANELES (09:40.471)
Yeah, they love that we didn't vote for this, right? And I mean, they it on immigration more than anything else, right? Like, oh, no, we just thought it was going to be criminals and rapists, like as if they really, really had convinced themselves and believed that there was like 10, 20 million murderers and rapists running around the country. You know, I mean, the crime numbers would have had to have been through the roof. But you know, the way the media depicts it, maybe they were convinced the crime numbers were through the roof. It's hard.

Mark Hayes (09:42.994)
Right, right.

Mark Hayes (09:48.052)
You

Mark Hayes (10:08.158)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (10:10.613)
to buy the reasoning of these disgruntled MAGA types. But they're there, right? Like it's hit them and they're getting angry and peeling away and they've soured on the immigration. They've soured on Trump's leadership in the economy. You know, they barely care about what's going on internationally, but

Mark Hayes (10:30.205)
Yep.

BROCK GANELES (10:35.543)
No one, no one understands what we're doing internationally, even if you barely care about it. Why, why do we hate Canada now? Uh, you know, just as a lot of the now we're Russia's partner and Ukraine's the bad guy. There's just things that just don't, don't make sense to the average person who barely pays attention. just, none of them, none of them hit right. So, I mean, I, I mean, I came away to, I feel like the Dems tried hard yesterday. Some of them will get to some that didn't.

Mark Hayes (10:49.139)
Don't make sense. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (10:55.603)
You're right.

BROCK GANELES (11:05.399)
The counter programming got a lot of hits in terms of eyeballs. That's encouraging. You said you watched some of it. I didn't. you can fill me in on that. Schumer and Schumer and Jeffries to me were absolutely absent from the entire scenario last night. It's I don't like the supposedly the leaders like absolutely like they're invisible. They're invisible actors at this point.

Mark Hayes (11:09.735)
Good stuff.

Mark Hayes (11:13.553)
Yeah, man. Had to.

Mark Hayes (11:24.547)
Why? Why?

BROCK GANELES (11:36.651)
Like they're just, not even in the fight. They're not even in the game. I feel like they're just becoming increasingly irrelevant because they can't meet the moment. And last night was a chance for them to really show a strong hand. And I didn't see a peep from either of them.

Mark Hayes (11:45.818)
Yeah, I-

Mark Hayes (11:55.887)
No, no. And last night was when we needed them. We needed them to step up and say, this is nonsense. This is not how you govern the greatest country in the world. And we need to make a change. Now, we don't have three years to wait. We don't have time for this nonsense. And...

Again, our leaders have got to emerge. But now, right outside to the mall, flip the script a little bit, you've got senators out there, you've got 73 members of Congress who said, hell no, we won't go. And went outside, got on the podium and talked tough. And you had members from the African American community, you had members from the LBGTQ community.

You had members from Minneapolis, right? You had people, you know, in every walk of life preaching the same thing, unity. Let's come together and defeat this MAGA movement because that's the order of the day. Everyone out there that took that podium last night understood that's what needs to be done. And that was what we needed to hear.

And I was so glad to hear that. The other part about it was they hit 6 million subscribers yesterday. 6 million subscribers. Think about how impressive that is, 6 million. We've been struggling to get to 6,000, right? They hit 6 million and they beat Fox last night in terms of the coverage and the number of eyeballs. So you're going up against, you know, state regime media and you're beating them.

That means that people are not tuning in for the Jesse Waters clown show, the Sean Hannity deep fakes, right? just Ingram just clown shows and buffoonery. America's not here for it. We know we're better than this. We know we're better than this. And you know what I think?

Mark Hayes (14:16.301)
I think the response that Trump gave to the US women's hockey team just was so off putting to so many people after what they had done in that tournament. I think it turned a lot of people off. And then you're joking about it, you're chuckling about it. Nancy Guthrie is still missing. Savannah Guthrie's mother, the head of the FBI.

is Guzman Beers in the locker room in Milan, right? We're about to go to war with Iran. Our head at the FBI is Guzman Beers in Milan. We're about, we're trying to get Americans home from Jalisco in the middle of a turf war with, you know, the Mexican army and the drug cartel and a vicious drug cartel down there. And our head of our FBI,

He's all over it. no, I'm sorry. He's all over the next tall cold one with somebody else's gold medal around his neck. I mean, it makes no sense. What's he doing there on our dime anyway? Why are we paying for him to be in Milan?

BROCK GANELES (15:32.413)
I mean, is there ever had a head of FBI running around like in locker rooms, guzzling beers? But I think what you pointed to at the beginning is like what they're saying is the enthusiasm gap between the left and the right right now, like the right, you know, it's like a 15 point gap in the polling. And we're seeing it in Texas in terms of the early voting for the primary Democrat side of the ledger is significantly out voting.

Mark Hayes (15:49.464)
Right! Right!

BROCK GANELES (16:02.581)
the Republican primary and that's a pretty heavy hitting primary because it's Cornyn against what's his name, Paxson, right? So that's a pretty big deal of, you know, high profile characters. So in that respect, I think it was actually ended up being a good night for the left and for the resistance.

Mark Hayes (16:11.704)
Accent, yeah.

BROCK GANELES (16:25.919)
because of what you cited in terms of the eyeballs and the shifting attention and shifting energy of America. So in essence, what is supposed to be a good day for the incumbent was actually a good day for the resistance, not as good as it could have been because our leadership is horrendous. And it's funny that in some primaries, the question the candidates are getting is, you going to vote for a Keen Jeffries as the leader of the Congress? Like that is one of the questions being asked when they're on the

Mark Hayes (16:28.879)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (16:38.243)
Yes, sir.

Mark Hayes (16:42.991)
Weak.

BROCK GANELES (16:55.285)
the stage at these debates. And yeah, I think the sentiment is, is it's hard to defend him. Like there's not strong support, you know, for him. I think he's, you know, he's a pretty, I'm so I'm continually surprised that he has dropped the ball on this one because he could be a bold and aggressive leader. And yet he's chosen.

Mark Hayes (16:57.924)
Yep, because it's a problem. It's a problem.

Mark Hayes (17:14.745)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (17:22.264)
I thought he was going to give us the Brooklyn Hockey.

BROCK GANELES (17:25.205)
to play it more like Schumer. You know, he's not even as aggressive as Nancy Pelosi is who's been out there talking shit. know, he's maybe because he's untethered from worrying about the job. But I think Hakeem has just not read the room properly. And I don't think that he gets that much more time to figure it out. So the leadership was disappointing last night. The rank and file was a big W.

Mark Hayes (17:27.757)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Mark Hayes (17:33.409)
No. Right?

Mark Hayes (17:42.969)
No.

Mark Hayes (17:48.163)
No.

Mark Hayes (17:53.922)
Yeah. And you know, I think when we look at, you know, our party from leadership, like we were talking about prior to the show, there's no middle any, there's no middle ground anymore. You're either over here with us on the left, over there on the left, or you're with them. You know, because the people in the middle,

you know, are not fighting for our health care. They're not fighting. They're definitely not fighting for universal health care. Have we had that boat yet? Like, what are we doing with our health care, those subsidies and everything that's supposed to be happening? Nothing is happening, right? Everything that's supposed to be going our way. He had nothing to talk about last night. He had no wins he could promote except for the U.S. hockey team. And he had nothing to do with that.

BROCK GANELES (18:44.019)
I know. Well, he had to brag about ICE, right? How good ICE is doing, right? The most hated Gestapo force since Hitler. that's sort of the feather in his cap in his mind. What a great job they're doing. Yeah, it's a good point about the middle. You know, these Democrats that want to play to this mythical middle. I don't think there's enough constituents there.

Mark Hayes (18:46.53)
Hahahaha

Mark Hayes (18:53.167)
Right.

Unreal.

BROCK GANELES (19:11.947)
to bother enough votes there to bother playing to it. Like, yes, we're polarized. Well, okay. So pick which poll you're on. You in the middle, you're just lost and you can't lead from the middle. There's nobody there. And I think, you know, that's where Jeffries has really missed the mark. And remember those old problem solvers as Democrats and Republicans ever going across the aisle to come up with like, you know, creative solutions, blah, blah.

Mark Hayes (19:16.37)
No!

Mark Hayes (19:21.08)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (19:40.449)
That was a fucking farce. Did nothing. Those guys are all zeros. They're a waste of time.

Mark Hayes (19:42.146)
Right, right

Absolutely, brother. Total waste of time. know, and Brock, you know, let's talk about the progressives for a moment, because I don't think universal health care is all that progressive. You know, just because we haven't had it before doesn't mean, you know, stepping up our quality of life and our life spans is such a bad thing. Why? All these other industrialized nations are able to do it. Why can't we?

Right? Universal health care to me is not something that we, you know, throw the baby out with the bath water. I mean, it just doesn't make sense that this is such a taboo topic. You know, I mean, again, he can't speak to the cost of living and the increases. There's there's nobody doing anything to force these grocery stores and these grocery chains to come to Congress and say, why are your prices so high?

Come answer that question for us. What is it exactly about the cost of doing business right now that has made you raise your, that beef is at an all time high? Right? Is the bird flu going around? Like what's the deal with chicken? Why is it so expensive? Can you please come to Congress, come to the Hill and answer those?

Nobody's fighting for the 99%. The new term is the Epstein class. Those are the only people winning in Trump's economy. The one percenters who get to get away with pedophilia, right, who get to make all the money and all the decisions as to where the money's coming from, where it's going, and who's gonna pay taxes and who ain't, right, those 83 cats. And...

Mark Hayes (21:45.357)
That's it in a nutshell. It's the 1 % versus the 99.

That's the bottom line and we're losing.

BROCK GANELES (21:55.829)
Look, we've allowed massive consolidation in the food industry and just about every other industry. And it's all tied together because big business has been able to influence policy. We took all the teeth out of the Federal Trade Commission, right? No mergers ever get shot down. So we have consolidation everywhere. And with consolidation comes pricing power. So big business wins.

Mark Hayes (22:00.012)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (22:15.861)
Okay.

BROCK GANELES (22:22.667)
Big business wins because big business then throws the money back to the politicians, particularly in the MAGA world. And they get fight tooth and nail for policies that help those big businesses hurt small businesses and give those big businesses pricing power. And it's all circular and it becomes a circular game to where corporations who get taxed less now get higher profits.

Mark Hayes (22:22.817)
Correct.

BROCK GANELES (22:49.907)
less regulations so they don't have to have employee safety among other things. No one ever does anything about the minimum wage so they don't have to raise wages. So everything plays to the benefit of less and less companies and they're able to keep prices higher. And the food industry is just one of several industries right we let it happen in the airline industry it's happening all over the place. I could go on a rant maybe we won't do it on this show.

Mark Hayes (23:10.754)
Yeah.

BROCK GANELES (23:17.533)
about social media platforms and how we've allowed massive consolidation in the social media world amongst five, six companies of which their founders are all a part of that 83 billionaires club to where you can barely get a voice out in social media without having to play in the pool of one of the one of the billionaires on their way to trillionaires. It's been policy that allowed it to happen.

Mark Hayes (23:18.484)
Mark Hayes (23:32.492)
Yup.

Mark Hayes (23:43.403)
Yeah.

BROCK GANELES (23:46.099)
and progressives are against it. My favorite politician, Elizabeth Warren, has been fighting about this for decades, but it's been steamrolled because the money and and Republican policy has just, you know, made her arguments moot, but also the Democrats haven't fought with her.

All those middle of the road Democrats, know, quote, it's all about the economy and how the Dow Jones is doing played along with the Republicans called Elizabeth Warren, an outlier. And now even the federal now even the consumer protection board has gotten basically defanged. So now mom and pops don't even get protected from fraud. So they're getting ripped off left and right. These all these things are intertwined and.

Mark Hayes (24:06.549)
Right.

Mark Hayes (24:28.886)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (24:36.235)
You you said universal healthcare is not that crazy an idea. Well, you know what? Promoting competition isn't that crazy an idea either.

Mark Hayes (24:45.268)
No, no, no. Why are American companies so afraid of competition? That's what I'd love to know. Why do we have to monopolize everything? I mean, look, we talked about social media. Look at our over the air station, right? Either you go extreme right wing or you go home, according to Donald Trump. If you're not with me, you're against me and I'm gonna make your life a living hell.

And you know, what the hell is that?

BROCK GANELES (25:16.853)
Yep. You know, this, this whole idea of choice ties into my other massive pet peeve. If anyone wants to know how to rile me up, just use the term electability in your argument. Cause it's that same kind of concept about having less choice. It's just having less choice in the

Mark Hayes (25:30.373)
god. Yeah.

Right.

BROCK GANELES (25:41.919)
ballot box instead of in the consumer world. So we got some pushback on our recent podcast where we talked about religion and politics and talked about Jasmine Crockett versus Tal Reiko. And a lot of the pushback we got on the people that said they're voting for Tal Reiko is because they think he's more electable than Jasmine Crockett, which, by the way, is almost always code for he's a white man. Right. Because a white man.

Mark Hayes (25:45.919)
Right.

Mark Hayes (25:54.635)
You're right.

Mark Hayes (26:06.025)
He's a white guy, right? Yep.

BROCK GANELES (26:09.759)
No one ever tells a white man he can't run anywhere. White men can run anywhere. Michael Bloomberg could be the mayor of New York, right? For 12 years. White guy. Why? He was electable, right? So electability is something used against as Pete Buttigieg electable. he's gay. Not electable. Women, women not electable, right? Already been proven. Hillary couldn't win. Kamala didn't win. So.

Mark Hayes (26:12.83)
Anything.

Mark Hayes (26:19.187)
Right? Yeah.

Mark Hayes (26:29.479)
Nope, not so much.

BROCK GANELES (26:37.973)
Jasmine Crockett not considered electable because she has to win in the whole state of Texas. But to me, electability is a fraud. It's your way of thinking. Your way of thinking. How bad is the other person? Well, they're so bad that they won't vote for this person. So then I can't vote for this person. So I have to kind of go along with what they're going to do. So I'm going to knock out the candidates. It's such a fraudulent bullshit argument that

Mark Hayes (26:43.422)
Right.

Mark Hayes (26:48.191)
Cool. Yep.

Mark Hayes (27:06.889)
Yep.

BROCK GANELES (27:07.701)
just pushes back against diversity of candidates. And it just makes me want Jasmine Crocker to win more in the primary in Texas because was Barack Obama electable, Mark? Was Barack Obama electable? No, he wasn't electable.

Mark Hayes (27:17.31)
Alright.

Nope. Nope. Nope. Ended up being one of the best presidents in our time and never needed a lawyer. Yep.

BROCK GANELES (27:28.543)
No one's electable until they are, until they are, right? Until you throw someone out there. So talent, talent doesn't matter. It's our perception of who we think the people, what the other people around us are going to do.

Mark Hayes (27:45.374)
True that. True that.

BROCK GANELES (27:46.441)
So it shrinks down the competitive pool who is actually gets supported out there in the political sphere. And it's that same lack of choice that we bitch about in the shopping center world of why prices are too high because we've shrunk our choices. And to do that on the political side is just fucking ridiculous.

Mark Hayes (28:05.578)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (28:10.611)
Yup.

BROCK GANELES (28:10.857)
So save me your electability argument. I don't want to fucking hear it. No one's electable till they get elected. Vote the best. Just promote the best fucking person. Yeah, please.

Mark Hayes (28:17.874)
Yeah. Vote for the best candidate. All right, quick hits. My quick hit tonight, Sanjaz McCrocket money. We've already got record spending in that primary. $110 million has been spent in the Democratic primary for that very reason that you just talked about, electability. Sanjaz McCrocket.

Jasmine was on social media the other day saying five, 10, 15, whatever you got. Because one of the super PACs just dumped in $4 million into Talarico's coffers, you know, so the religious guy can win, you know? But the fighter is not electable. And again, it's code for race, right? We've...

BROCK GANELES (29:12.393)
race, race, race, sexual orientation, right? Like, I mean, you hear about Buttigieg, Buttigieg couldn't win because we can't have, we're not, America's not going to elect a gay president. America's not going to elect a gay president. So what? He gets bumped out in the primary because it's been decided that he couldn't go further. I mean, it was everything. was everything behind why the Democrats didn't rally around Kamala right away.

Mark Hayes (29:15.015)
Mm-hmm. All of it. Yep. All of it.

Mark Hayes (29:22.142)
We can't have a first husband. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (29:29.885)
Right.

Mark Hayes (29:33.733)
Right. What do you-

BROCK GANELES (29:39.16)
Why was, you know, George Clooney and all those other fuckers, while Cabal on the side who wanted to have a different decision making process, right? Because Oklahoma wasn't electable, self-fulfilling prophecy. If you cut her at the fucking knees and don't support her, okay. I guess you proved yourself right by not supporting her, right? It just, it all, it all ties together. All right. Yeah, exactly. Trump was electable.

Mark Hayes (29:39.335)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (29:46.885)
Right. Right.

Mark Hayes (30:01.243)
And look where we are now.

BROCK GANELES (30:05.635)
She doesn't care who is electable. Any white guy spitting bile is electable on their side. I got two quickies. One, beyond the fact that the US men's hockey team kind of clown themselves and really, really blew their entire, you know, the grandeur of their success. You see that the women's team, which

Mark Hayes (30:05.819)
Mm-hmm. No!

Mark Hayes (30:12.54)
Right? No doubt. No doubt.

Mark Hayes (30:21.543)
Yeah, they look like idiots.

Mark Hayes (30:28.251)
All their cache.

BROCK GANELES (30:32.735)
stood up and refused to show up last night. was invited out to Vegas by Flava Flav for a victory, a victory celebration. And apparently they've accepted. So that's going to be like must see TV. Like they're going to win that. That can be a huge fundraiser for women's hockey because now that's a fun, inclusive event.

Mark Hayes (30:39.431)
Flavor Flav-

Mark Hayes (30:46.535)
Yep.

Like that!

Mark Hayes (30:52.861)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (30:58.683)
And it's flavor flake.

BROCK GANELES (30:59.213)
Kudos to them. There's got to be cameras. That's got to be a Netflix special. Can't wait. I hope they show up. I hope they run around Vegas for a week. Bring a whole lot of Vegas. Vegas needs the business also. Yeah. Okay. One last thing before we go. I got to ask you this question. What the F went on at that BAFTA?

Mark Hayes (31:08.775)
Well...

Nobody else is there, so they got plenty of room.

BROCK GANELES (31:26.613)
Awards thing where the guy with Tourette's syndrome blurted out the n-word Well Michael But well the sinners guys were up there getting their award. Are you on top of this story?

Mark Hayes (31:39.324)
I am not, I saw the headlines and I had not had a chance to dive into the controversy. I will do that tonight and weigh in on our next show.

BROCK GANELES (31:51.833)
Okay, yeah, white guy here, just trying to figure out, I I know it's bad, I know it was bad, and it's like, I don't know how the fucking N-word ends up getting blurted out, and they didn't cut it, they didn't edit it out of the show, like they let it in the show. Okay, all right. All right, do a little homework, we'll circle back on Quick Kits tomorrow on that one.

Mark Hayes (31:53.767)
Yeah, because I saw the controversy.

Mark Hayes (32:10.734)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (32:17.404)
Sounds good. All right, buddy, that's it for us. We'll check in tomorrow. Have a good one. Peace.

BROCK GANELES (32:22.777)
All right, Mark, always a pleasure. I'll talk to you tomorrow.