2 Men In Black and White: An Honest Conversation

Mark Hayes (00:01.838)
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another exciting episode of Two Men in Black and White, an Honest Conversation. All right, folks, the rest of the world is talking about what a ridiculous human being Donald Trump is. The only people not talking about it is the people who can actually do something about it here in America. And I'm talking about the Republican Congress. They have the House Senate.

although albeit a slim majority in the House, they have the Senate, they have the presidency, and of course they own the Supreme Court. They own six justices on the Supreme Court. So those are the actual human beings that can do something about it. But in the meantime, we're the laughing stock of the world. But what I love is how Davos is handling President Trump. Everyone there is treating him like the outcast and buffoon that he is.

Brock and Ellis Joyce be now live. Brock, we're just a couple of guys with what streaming capabilities that are trying to take a look at the world through the black community and the Jewish American community as we continue to try to maneuver the fascist authoritarian regime that is Donald Trump 2.0. The Davos scene, Donald Trump walking on a red carpet by himself was the funniest thing I've seen in the 10 years

that he's been fucking up our political system. What say you, my friend?

BROCK GANELES (01:31.003)
Yeah, no one wanted to be in the screen with him, right? mean, look, Gavin Newsom set the tone a little yesterday, told Europe they had to be tougher with Trump, think we definitely, know, Mark Carney at Canada yesterday gave a strong speech, but he basically said, hey, the world order's changed and we're moving away from America. That was a terrible sign for us. But today Europe came united and

Mark Hayes (01:35.211)
No.

Mark Hayes (01:47.789)
you

Mark Hayes (01:55.498)
Elegy.

BROCK GANELES (01:59.579)
They kind of stared Trump down, right? He walked away from his invade Greenland, you know, fantasies. So they did show they showed a tougher front to him. He was a maniacal, off off the charts, idiocy and mental decline in full effect to the world today. It's what everyone around the world is talking about. And

Mark Hayes (02:06.433)
Yeah. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (02:22.754)
Yeah.

BROCK GANELES (02:26.85)
Seeped into our media a little bit our media has decided that it's normalized and the fact that we have a psychopathic Malignant narcissist with dementia is just sort of par for the course and not a news story anymore but the world got the world got a heavy dose of it today and They're looking at us going. What the fuck you guys doing over there?

Mark Hayes (02:41.291)
Yep. Yep.

Mark Hayes (02:51.821)
Yeah, Gavin Newsom was masterful. Gavin Newsom called him a T-Rex. He said, you either kill it or mate with it. There's no two ways around it. The guy is a freaking psychopath. And you have to deal with him as such. I don't understand what people are waiting for. Yeah.

BROCK GANELES (03:12.598)
And let me jump in your your sounds a little low, but he's also an idiot, right? Like he's telling them on all that if we didn't win We American income in to win World War two everyone will be speaking German while he's in Switzerland that already speaks German You know, I mean he's involved Greenland Iceland like multiple times and just confused everyone in the room as to what the fuck You know where he was even? You know

Mark Hayes (03:25.517)
I'm in the right.

Mark Hayes (03:38.562)
Yeah.

BROCK GANELES (03:38.759)
where his attention was, right? And he slurs his speech like he just sounds like someone who's not all there. We've seen it and been talking about it for years now. Like this didn't snoop up on us. But between the press conference yesterday and the performance today, we just proved to the world that we're being led by a lunatic and they continue to wonder when the day comes that we addressed in essence our problem.

Mark Hayes (03:49.728)
Yeah.

BROCK GANELES (04:08.698)
that we've exported to them.

Mark Hayes (04:11.732)
Right. know, the brilliance of the rest of the world is amazing now that, you know, we've got this, what, what, what did, who called him a daughter? Was it Kim Jong Un? Somebody from overseas called him a daughter. You know, it was just a, yeah, like, you know, just an unflattering,

BROCK GANELES (04:33.26)
a doddering old man like the doddering all bad

Mark Hayes (04:40.178)
insulted. love that. Man, my mind's playing tricks on me. But nonetheless, the rambling, ineffective, just pointless speech that he gave today in Davos was just ridiculous. The fact that he can't get Greenland and Iceland correct. The fact that he's such a low IQ president.

You know, and it's like watching a Rolls Royce when you hear, you know, Carney or someone from, you know, Canada's prime minister. And then, you know, now you're seeing a bread and butter mobile with Donald Trump, you know, and the rest of the world is looking at Americans. They're not looking at Trump. You know, he's the one that played us. We got played. The rest of the world was saying, what the fuck's wrong with you American people? You like, you didn't see this guy coming? Yeah, we saw him coming.

Right? But we're so fucking racist and so fucking afraid of a more fair, more just, more culturally inclusive society that we voted this clown in. And now we got people out here brutalizing American citizens because of it.

BROCK GANELES (06:02.758)
Yeah, they're watching the videos of brutality on our streets. Just one other point, just on the Trump idiocy, is he's also, of course, berating NATO while he's in his speech, He's calling NATO the enemy and also stating, totally factually wrong, that NATO has never done anything for America because he doesn't fucking know because he didn't pay attention his whole life and he's such an idiot that they answered our call after 9-11. NATO came to our defense

Mark Hayes (06:23.595)
Because he didn't read anything. He doesn't read anything.

Mark Hayes (06:29.831)
every time.

BROCK GANELES (06:32.262)
sent troops to the Middle East. They could easily argued that was not their war. It was our war of choice. After we were attacked, they stood by our side, sent troops and they all had troops die in those hills of Afghanistan and those fucking urban centers in Iraq. And Trump's there today in 2026 telling them that NATO has never done anything for America when

Mark Hayes (06:49.0)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (06:58.547)
Yeah.

BROCK GANELES (06:59.3)
when article when the article five call was was was given. They answered that call. So it's an embarrassing it's an embarrassment to us as people because the citizens of those countries know what they did for us and they're here and our president over there totally discounting it pretending like it didn't happen gaslighting them in the way that he's gaslit us for a decade. You know they're disappointed they're rightfully disappointed.

Mark Hayes (07:13.525)
Right.

Mark Hayes (07:24.809)
Absolutely. And here's the thing, Brown.

Yeah, and your boy couldn't tell us what Article 5 is, right? He doesn't know what it is. Because he's not well read, he's not well versed in anything, he's not an expert at anything, he's not even good at real estate. He blew his $400 million fortune that daddy left him. And daddy was constantly bailing him out. his quest for approval.

you know, just reminds us of how shallow he is. But, you know, let's turn the page and let's get back to ICE and what they're doing and how they're brutalizing our people in Minnesota. And, you know, hats off to Minnesotans, right? Mid-January, they're outside every day in masks, in masks. It's a shame that the media won't cover it way it should be covered.

so we can understand the enormity of what they're doing. But here's the other thing, Brock. Have we seen video of one single gang member arrest? Have we seen any video of one single dope house broken up? One single video of a violent criminal being taken off the streets? No, Brock, you know what we're watching? We're watching people who are contributing

to the American experiment and the American way of life being brutalized, snatched off the streets. People who are living in well-fed, nice homes now have to deal with the issue of these Brown church running in their home without a warrant, right? Because this government, this regime wants to be able to do anything they say they wanna do.

BROCK GANELES (09:06.167)
No.

Mark Hayes (09:25.914)
It is absolutely horrific now that one of the top stories today is the fact that they want to be able to go into your home without a warrant and just, you know, blow your doors down. You know why? Because they're tied to people's in the law. So no, you cannot come in here without a legal warrant signed by a judge.

BROCK GANELES (09:52.647)
I mean, what country are we in, right? I mean, these are fundamental rights in America, right? They're just, these are the basics. You know, this is the shit, you know, everybody knows, right? This is what differentiates us from so many other countries, right? Core freedoms. But ICE is a form of, yeah, ICE is a, this is a form of ethnic cleansing.

Mark Hayes (09:54.697)
Exactly.

Mark Hayes (10:10.993)
Right, that are systematically being eroded.

BROCK GANELES (10:21.606)
Right? It's not like people are just being systematically killed, but they're being systematically displaced and sent out of the country. Right? First to concentration camps and then to deportation. So it's a cleanse. You know, it is a, you know, a whitening of America. This is the project 2025 blueprint. This is why ICE is a white supremacy militia. And we should call it as such because that is the mandate and that is

in essence what they're executing and It's interesting Minneapolis being such a white city There's a lot of angry Yeah, angry white people out there who you know once you start supporting the others The not you know black and brown people you get lumped in with them you become part of the enemy force But they're you know, they're

Mark Hayes (10:53.447)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (10:58.291)
Crazy, right? Makes no sense.

Mark Hayes (11:11.762)
Mm-hmm.

BROCK GANELES (11:17.414)
They're ringing the bell saying the rest of America needs to wake up. That this is a Gestapo like force. I saw a great clip from a guy saying, know, enough of these, what do you call them? Permitted, permitted parades. No more permitted parades. We need civil disobedience. And hopefully that's what Minneapolis is going to bring to the table on Friday because yeah, ICE is out of control. I guess they're going into Maine now also. So there's been some chatter of them of

Mark Hayes (11:35.783)
No doubt.

BROCK GANELES (11:46.424)
them starting to make widespread arrests in Maine, another just random, mostly white state, you know?

Mark Hayes (11:53.317)
Right. And you mentioned New Hampshire as well.

BROCK GANELES (11:57.721)
It's just kind of a weird selection of places to go into, I guess they don't necessarily, know, maybe they just didn't see as much value in having the troops in red states that they really want to fuck with the blue states. So that's where, you know, that's where their focus is.

Mark Hayes (12:09.159)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (12:14.844)
Yeah, yeah, it is.

BROCK GANELES (12:17.21)
How do we fight? do we, mean, Minneapolis is giving us a blueprint, but how do we, how do we expand out their resistance and get that energy in other parts of the country?

Mark Hayes (12:27.205)
Right. Which is what needs to be done.

Well, and here's the thing. I saw a guy knock an ICE agent out today in Brooklyn. I don't know if that clip was fresh. mean, they had on winter clothes, but he knocked the hell out of an ICE agent, and I'm here for it. You know, these people deserve to be assaulted with what they're doing. What they're doing is unlawful. It's immoral, and it has no place in this country. But to your point,

Chicago gave us the blueprint, right? We understand how we need to fight back, right? This is not new. And all we got to get the numbers out there. Minneapolis is doing it with numbers in sub zero temperatures. They're doing it with numbers. So don't fucking tell me that, you know, you're too busy or you're too cold. know, Minneapolis is busy too.

Right? These people are busy too. Minneapolis is not some po-dunk city. Okay? This is a twin cities with a vibrant, vibrant economy. We mentioned, you know, when we talked about the boycott, I think there are 20 Fortune 500 companies. You know?

BROCK GANELES (13:45.767)
Yeah, a lot of big companies there. Three and a half million people between Minneapolis, St. Paul. It's not a small, you know, it's not a small municipality. So look, the fight has been great. We can't get the Friday quick enough because I really want to see what kind of numbers come out and what the reaction to is to, you know, huge numbers and whether that gives us like a new playbook.

Mark Hayes (13:51.552)
To say Paul? Not at all.

Mark Hayes (14:04.164)
What happened? Right.

BROCK GANELES (14:12.73)
whether the economic shutdown inflicts some pain on corporate America that then speaks out against what's going on instead of like soft peddling like Jamie Dimon did over at Davos. Like, we don't like the chaos that Trump brings, like, it won't be critical of him. Like us common citizens who see these as fucking lunatic, but somehow business leaders feel like they're, it's more important for them to protect

Mark Hayes (14:15.719)
Some real paint.

Mark Hayes (14:28.878)
Right.

Mark Hayes (14:37.113)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (14:42.63)
the assets right? Money first, country second. Toxic capitalism.

Mark Hayes (14:49.145)
Yeah. That toxic capitalism is just disgusting for me. You know, the fact that we put money not over just people, but we have...

We have put money over the democracy, right? Money is more important than maintaining the American experiment, right? The shining star on the hill. Our corporate profits mean much more than that principle. And I think that's just as disgusting as the fact that we're brutalizing our own people.

BROCK GANELES (15:23.728)
Enter.

BROCK GANELES (15:28.518)
It's how we got here, right? Our Supreme Court made the ruling that corporations had the same rights as people and then therefore corporations could funnel all this money into our political system and it gave big money more sway over our government, our representatives even more bought than ever and have more of an opportunity to enrich themselves in their seats so their constituents come second and the big money comes first and we, you know,

We lawyered our way and legalized our way into a situation that really just fed back to the success of our businesses to the, at the expense of our people. And even with all that, people came from all over the world as immigrants to come to America, to work their way up from the bottom, to contribute to this society. And now in 2026, we pulled the ultimate

Mark Hayes (16:11.151)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (16:26.486)
switch on them and now they're enemies of the state. They're all criminals and they're getting deported. mean, first you're getting the first are getting locked up in horrendous conditions and then they're getting deported to like anywhere in the world, right? Not even back to home countries. Like what the whole continuum of this is so un-American that

Mark Hayes (16:35.652)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (16:54.092)
I even understand how anyone at this point is looking at our country and saying this is what I want to be a part of.

Mark Hayes (17:02.403)
Right. And also, my friend, know, America is moving along like there's nothing wrong. Right? We're watching football on Sundays. You know, we got NCAA basketball starting up, you know, talking about the portal, you know. mean, we're... Grammys coming up. The only, you know, unscheduled item that's being interrupted is Melania's, you know...

BROCK GANELES (17:20.454)
Yeah, we got the Grammys. Grammys are coming up on Sunday.

Mark Hayes (17:32.559)
Debut documentary, right? That's the only like entertainment piece that's been disrupted by you know, this nonsense It's it's it's insane to me that Americans are moving around just like like there's nothing else going on People shopping at the malls people eating out at restaurants, you know It's no bit like it's no big deal to lose the democracy Like it's no big deal for this guy to keep just snatching bricks out of the foundation of this country on a daily

fucking basis and just, just, you know, pissing on America and, and making us into the laughing stock of the world when we once, you know, were the admiration of the world. It's a joke.

BROCK GANELES (18:21.9)
And we're watching Trump raid the treasury and or get bribed left and right. mean, I think the times had a story yesterday, that he's made that, that we know of $1.4 billion since he's in the one year, first year of his presidency. And we got to hear that horse shit about how he's like donating his salary, which he said he did the first time. Never actually did, but like, yeah, that's an easy donation to make when you're making 1.4 billion.

Mark Hayes (18:39.236)
Wow.

Mark Hayes (18:43.352)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

BROCK GANELES (18:50.436)
I mean, you see some of these fuckers that he's pardoning, like he pardoned a meth dealer son of like a MAGA congressperson or something like it's the hypocrisy of every statement that, you know, this quote law enforcement effort of ISIS is supposed to be about and the bombing of all those boats in the Bahamas because the quote fentanyl, even though everyone knows none of it's coming from Venezuela, it's coming from other countries, that's a fraud to begin with. But then we're

Mark Hayes (18:51.199)
no doubt.

Mark Hayes (19:08.077)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (19:19.13)
You know, then he's pardoning, you know, drug dealers basically, but we know he's getting the payoff that 1.4 billion to drop in the bucket compared to how much he's really made. He's raiding our treasure. He's stealing our money and we're still going along with it. I love that guy's message today is we got to move from permanent parade, permanent parades to civil disobedience. We have been woefully behind the curve on the civil disobedience.

Mark Hayes (19:33.816)
Right.

Mark Hayes (19:48.427)
Right. And, you know, I always thought that we were a country that would fight back, you know, if we ever came under attack, even by an enemy from within, especially an enemy, you know, with a D plus, you know, educational record. Like, you know, Donald Trump is not a smart guy. We have not been outsmarted by any kind of intellectual genius. We've been played.

We're not being governed, as you mentioned. We're being looted. And that's the thing that I don't get. How are Americans okay with this guy taking your hard earned tax dollars and putting them in his pocket for himself and his family? Taking your tax dollars and giving them to his family? What if Don Jr. got to deal with the Pentagon? Jared is running around building.

resorts on the Gaza Strip and wherever else, you know, they can leverage their governmental positions, right, to enrich themselves. You know, how many, what did Jarvanka make the last year? What, like $600 million they raked in after they got those Chinese trademarks and patents?

BROCK GANELES (21:00.014)
Exactly.

BROCK GANELES (21:05.806)
and took people's healthcare away. Right? Let me just take from the people a little by little, even little by little, chunk by chunk, taking our rights and now our healthcare and our money. we've, once again, we've allowed it to happen. Now politicians can do something.

Mark Hayes (21:07.969)
Yes. Yes.

Mark Hayes (21:20.544)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (21:27.233)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (21:28.002)
I that Jeffries is not going to support the funding of but he's also not going to whip the Democrats against it, so he's kind of playing that middle of the road, wimpy strategy on it. I understand that not adding more money to DHS in this current funding is more symbolic than anything that's going to really defang ICE, and I understand the argument that better to get concessions on something you're to lose anyway, but I still...

argue against it. still feel like the democratic leaders need to make the symbolic gesture of voting against the DHS funding, even if it's just for a few days, because their job is to generate energy of the people to incite us, know, inspire us.

Mark Hayes (22:11.094)
Right.

Mark Hayes (22:22.122)
Right. Right.

BROCK GANELES (22:24.102)
to get out on the streets and protest. And if they just roll over, cause it's a political, you know, it's, doesn't have a political benefit in the near term or could hurt us in November. I think that's short-sighted. And the play right now is to energize the people because you're a resistance party. You're not a political party right now, Democrats, you're a resistance party. So think of every action as to what's going to trigger more resistance.

So therefore to roll over on the vote, make noise, make it uncomfortable, vote against it, make there be multiple votes so everyone knows what's being talked about, make the issue bigger and bigger and bigger and push it into the mainstream so everyone knows what an atrocity ICE is. Just roll over and say they need to be trained better. The issue goes away and those people on the streets of Minneapolis are still out there kind of alone.

Mark Hayes (22:53.792)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (23:22.234)
They need to hear you and see that you're backing them, even if it's just symbolic. That's where I stand on that topic.

Mark Hayes (23:22.69)
Right.

Mark Hayes (23:30.338)
You know, Brock, I'm with you right there, but I think we gotta move that energy one step further into DC, like we've been saying for what, more than a year now? We've got to go right to his doorstep, right in front of his face. We have got to make it difficult for them to continue to screw us over. We've gotta make it difficult for these senators to get from

BROCK GANELES (23:31.238)
What do you think on that?

Mark Hayes (23:58.581)
their apartments, their fancy apartments in the Washington DC metro area into the building to do work, right? We've got to make it so that they are uncomfortable just like we are, right? Think about those.

BROCK GANELES (24:11.598)
Why do you think why do think we haven't had a major protest in DC? In mean we had one that the women march when Trump first got voted on the Parkland kids, you know inspired a huge march for gun control reform. I mean all those things failed but they rolled out big numbers. This one will have much more energy. What do you think? No one's like said, you know, like organized

Mark Hayes (24:17.533)
I think we're afraid.

Mark Hayes (24:22.454)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (24:33.436)
Right?

BROCK GANELES (24:41.326)
in DC.

Mark Hayes (24:42.869)
Yeah, I mean, I just don't understand it. That's where we need to be. That's where the con man is. If you had an issue at Macy's, you're not going to take that jacket back to Walmart. They're not going to refund your money.

BROCK GANELES (25:06.02)
One.

Mark Hayes (25:09.897)
Right, so why are we marching in Idaho, right, when the theft is occurring in fucking Washington DC? You know, when Dr. King said we need to rally, he went to the mall. Right, like this is the closest thing to the civil rights, you know, conflict.

BROCK GANELES (25:10.202)
Yeah.

BROCK GANELES (25:21.453)
Washington yeah

Mark Hayes (25:36.256)
that we've had in our life. Well, the civil rights conflict was in our lifetime at the late 60s, early 70s. And it reminded me, Dr. Mondani, the mayor of New York, reminded us of a great quote from Dr. King. What good is being able to sit at a lunch counter if you can't afford a hamburger? They are trying to rule the people by starving us out.

by ruining our economy, right? By taking jobs away. here we have a president flipping people off, telling them, fuck you, as he walks through the General Motors plant because they don't agree with his fucking bully pulpit tactics.

BROCK GANELES (26:23.536)
But he's also trying to try and rule by intimidation. And that maybe works when it's, you know, 20 agents banging on somebody's door or surrounding somebody's car and pulling them out through the windshield. Right. Because that's like one against 20. And the only way to, you know, sort of counteract that is to show massive numbers. You know, that strikes fear. Maybe that makes agents wonder if they're in the right job.

Mark Hayes (26:26.621)
Right.

Mark Hayes (26:37.79)
Right.

Mark Hayes (26:45.852)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (26:52.09)
you know, ones that aren't three percenters of proud boys or like gung ho to, you know, kill anybody who doesn't, you know, look or think like them. But maybe some others in this crazy force who just signed up for the paycheck and be like, Hey, do I really want to be out here? Is this the side that, you know, I feel comfortable on? Or they just, you know, feel afraid like they're going to be overwhelmed.

Mark Hayes (27:01.3)
Right.

Mark Hayes (27:12.297)
Right.

Mark Hayes (27:18.399)
That's

BROCK GANELES (27:18.97)
And we haven't yet. It's it's here. It's a huge missing piece of this puzzle. Other countries don't miss that this they get out of the street in their capital. They don't go to some remote region, right? They're out there in the capital. So

Mark Hayes (27:24.029)
Yep. No.

Yep. They go right to his mouth. And that's where we need to be. Hey, before we get out of here, let's talk about Nicki Minaj real quick. Wow, she is an idiot. She is one big idiot. She is, again, way over her pay grade taking on Don Lemon with this homophobic slur. And she, instead of walking back to comment and trying to reel back in,

BROCK GANELES (27:41.646)
Okay.

Mark Hayes (27:57.865)
you know, a huge part of her audience and her base, she says, yeah, the backlash was the point. Now make that make sense, right? But don't, right, I don't get it either, right? I she wrote that, I purposely wrote it that way because I knew that would be the only way to get the cock suckers to post about it.

BROCK GANELES (28:25.612)
I don't know what her end game is. Who's ever gonna work with her again? I mean...

Mark Hayes (28:26.81)
Insane.

Mark Hayes (28:30.992)
No one, she's going to get deported. Look, she's made it absolutely plainly clear how she feels about African Americans, right? So as an undocumented whatever she is, she needs to go back to Trinidad.

BROCK GANELES (28:43.718)
But if she's agitating someone that Trump hates when put Don Lemon in that category because Trump hates just about everyone She probably will get to stay as long as she can be an agitator. So she's gonna play the MAGA game She'll get to stay but I just don't understand how Why you know, I don't know who she thinks she's gonna ever perform for anymore I guess, you know her and Kid Rock

Mark Hayes (28:51.473)
Right.

Mark Hayes (28:57.106)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (29:08.88)
You know, she'll replace Ludacris who was out there with Kid Rock and then did an shit and I think he got off of that, that, you know, that stage pretty quick. Like who, yeah, like who's coming to her concert? Like she's gonna have less people than the Melania premiere.

Mark Hayes (29:15.201)
Mm-hmm.

Pretty quick.

Mark Hayes (29:24.998)
Yeah, yeah, and good for her. Adios, Nicki Minaj, donkey of the day, as they call them on the Breakfast Club. What an ass.

BROCK GANELES (29:31.792)
Yeah. I mean, she's, she's, she's been this 72 hours. She's been able to be the, you know, the a-hole of the week. I mean, she's kind of keeping it going. At some point, everyone's going to get tired of hearing it and then she's going to fade to the background and everyone's going be like, excuse me, we'll have written her off.

Mark Hayes (29:40.51)
stockings on the day. Yeah. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (29:50.332)
Right.

Yep. Hey, I got a quick hit for you. Yeah, I'm really annoyed at how the other day you talked about how, you know, Donald Trump had interrupted and is decaying every aspect of our society, including youth sports, right? Because you've got jackass parents who are talking that

BROCK GANELES (29:56.23)
Yeah, what do you got?

Mark Hayes (30:20.447)
crazy shit in their house. Grandma, told you it started home. And you know, now parents are paying the price. I mean, now children are paying the price. So the Tennessee holler, which is one of my favorite follows, folks, if you want to follow Tennessee holler, please do it on whatever platform you enjoy. But there was a youth soccer player who was told by an opponent's goalkeeper that Donald Trump was going to grab him and send him back.

BROCK GANELES (30:24.026)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (30:49.778)
wherever he came from. And the poor kid was born in the US. Kid was crying his heart out in the car to his parents and she recorded it, posted it, and the Tennessee holler put it on their social media platform. And that's absolutely disgusting. So now we have kids brutalizing other kids, right? Because words matter, right? Just like we heard with Trump.

You know, this idiot, you know, the king of word vomit. Words matter and words hurt. So it's absolutely disgusting. I'm so disturbed by it. You know, and these youth programs don't do anything about it, right? You know, they'll tell the, you know, the director of the Youth Soccer Association down there and whatever, bumble fuck Tennessee, and nothing will be done. Right?

The kid won't be suspended. He won't be forced to sit out the rest of the season and learn how to be a decent fucking human being, right? Because his parents are gonna come and advocate for him. He should be able to say that. mean, our society's like fucked up because of Donald Trump right now. Worse than it was before.

BROCK GANELES (32:04.538)
This is the America we live in. not surprised by the story. There was something called the Nazi Youth in Germany. It's indoctrination like you said. It trickles down from the adults. My Quick Hit is Might as Touch kicked Michael Cohen off their platform. He's kind of backtracked on lot of his anti-Trump chatter. He's either trying to get a pardon and or make some money.

Mark Hayes (32:08.86)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (32:15.857)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (32:20.882)
Yep.

BROCK GANELES (32:32.986)
By current favor again, said that he was coerced by Letitia James on some of the comments that he made and he's trying to be like a whistleblower on how you get strong-armed when you're arrested and the like. But Tabitha Speaks had a great show on the whole thing. She did a deep dive into it. But it just kind of reminded me how wary I am of ex-MAGA people or people who were in Trump's circle.

who then turn against him because unless they do the full, full Mia culpa and show it over time, there's just still something about them. You know, that's why I could scare a moochie. I'm kind of like, but you were there. You were willing to be a part of it or the Sarah Matthews and Alyssa Farah's the ones that are on TV. Like they're a part of Trump's admin, but now they become critics. like they bought into a lot of it. Like deep down, they agree with a lot of this shit.

Mark Hayes (33:03.058)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (33:10.534)
Yep, doesn't matter.

Mark Hayes (33:29.776)
Right.

BROCK GANELES (33:32.065)
So I just, I always have to, I want everyone to be anti-Trump, so I'll take any and all critics, but I worry some of these people are only critical of a part of the Trump MAGA movement, not the whole fucking white supremacy enchilada. So I guess it's good my, sorry.

Mark Hayes (33:50.971)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (33:54.556)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (33:58.01)
All right, gotta, yeah, sorry about that. You got a quick hit for me before we get out of here?

BROCK GANELES (34:06.448)
Quick hit, I heard Jack Smith is, let's check on this fact. I believe, I saw this somewhere, I'm hoping it's true. know, whenever I see a news story, if I don't have it triple sourced, like I have to caveat it, like I don't want to be duped. But I saw that Jack Smith may be testifying live tomorrow in front of Congress. Is that possible?

Mark Hayes (34:11.599)
Mmm.

Mark Hayes (34:21.242)
Right?

Right.

Mark Hayes (34:31.694)
wow.

BROCK GANELES (34:34.936)
I know Trump didn't want the second half of Jack Smith's report released, but I did see somewhere that Jack Smith is going to be testifying live somewhere. Let's check our facts on that. I saw it just before we came on. I'm only hoping and praying that that's true. And if it is, I will definitely be watching because he will not pull any punches.

Mark Hayes (34:46.693)
Right.

Mark Hayes (34:56.769)
Not at all, not at all. And he's going to give us the straight talk. If he is testifying, you know, the good thing is because the networks will avoid it, like the plague, we should be able to see it on YouTube or C-SPAC. Right? So, you know, that would be.

BROCK GANELES (35:17.464)
If it's live, there's gonna be, I think there's gonna be cameras in there, I think, so I gotta look it up again. Anyone who watched this to the end, yep.

Mark Hayes (35:22.788)
Here it is.

I got it right here. Jack Smith will appear before the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday, January 22nd. The hearing is set to begin at 10 a.m. Watch it in the player above, and they've got a YouTube link for you. And this is PBS, right? Remember Donald Trump said PBS was no longer in existence the other day in one of his ramblings. Sir, you are wrong. Shut your ass up talking about things that you don't know. So yes.

BROCK GANELES (35:53.52)
Does it say what committee he's in front of? Who, who? judiciary. Wow. Okay. Well, yeah. So we'll have some news for on that tomorrow because he's just gonna, he's going to be spitting facts and we know whenever facts, whenever facts come out, Trump looks like the fucking, you know, criminal that he is. So I expect some of that to come out of tomorrow. So.

Mark Hayes (35:56.623)
Judiciary. House Judiciary.

That ought to be exciting.

Mark Hayes (36:05.55)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (36:09.006)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (36:15.472)
Daddy is.

And you can bet every Republican member of the Judiciary Committee will be trying to contort themselves into pretzels, you know, to cover for Trump, right? So they don't meet his wrath. All right, buddy, we'll keep an eye on that tomorrow. Let's text each other tomorrow during that if we're free from our day jobs. Because it ought to be good. Yes sir, no doubt. All right, my friend, have a great evening.

BROCK GANELES (36:41.385)
Yeah, I'm gonna watch it. I'm watching one way or another. All right, Mark, always a pleasure. Talk to you tomorrow.

Mark Hayes (36:48.271)
Boom. Peace.