2 Men In Black and White: An Honest Conversation

MARK HAYES (00:00.916)
Alright ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. We are back! Due to a couple of technical delays and a bad cell signal. Man, we were out of commission for an hour or two. But we are back and we are more pissed off than we've ever been. The Iran war continues. It is a total sham. The rest of the world has told Donald Trump to go pound sand up his ass and said, yeah, you're on your own, pal.

I'm not surprised. So what does that mean? That means that the men and women who serve the United States of America are making the ultimate sacrifice for absolutely no reason at all. There is absolutely no reason they can give us why we have to be bombing Iran, except for the fact that Israel wanted us to help out. Brock and Ellis Choysebee now live from the beautiful confines of the upper Hudson River Valley.

Brock, what a shit show. It continues. The rest of the world knows, the Trumpster is fucking delusional.

Brock Ganeles (01:10.694)
Yeah, Mark, we haven't spoken in a couple of days, my fault on that front. But in that 48 hour period, this whole Iran war has absolutely unraveled on Trump and his reaction to the events on the ground have been sheer lunacy and sheer buffoonery to where it's hard now for even the most hardcore of MAGA.

MARK HAYES (01:21.614)
Yes.

Brock Ganeles (01:36.43)
And certainly for anyone in the rest of the world, just not to realize that like the American ship is, is like teetering and there is no sense of like real logic coming out of decision-making of our country. So the fact that, I mean,

It's mind-boggling that we've actually eased sanctions on Iran and Russia and the two beneficiaries of the higher oil prices are the two...

in essence, adversarial forces. Like how is it possible that Iran's like winning out of this because they're actually able to sell more oil and Russia is now being able to fund its war on Ukraine. Ukraine is the big loser in all of this again, because somehow Russia gets to enrich themselves because of our foolishness. we, and Trump within like a day has been, we won the war. We don't need help. We wiped out their nukes.

MARK HAYES (02:16.31)
Right.

You're welcome.

MARK HAYES (02:24.877)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (02:39.555)
We needed to go to war so that they couldn't have nukes even though we'd wiped them out already and we're gonna put boots on the ground and we're gonna end the war any minute. All contradictory comments coming out of him within a 24 hour period so no one knows what the fuck America is up to. But NATO wants no part of it.

MARK HAYES (03:04.192)
None.

Brock Ganeles (03:04.535)
And what's Trump's reaction to that? He's threatening to invade Greenland again. Right? So here we go in this fucking circular idiocy.

MARK HAYES (03:12.758)
Right. And you know, and that's the lunacy of it all. It's like the media refuses to acknowledge the stupidity of our foreign policy, the nonsensical approach that the MAGA crowd is taking. You know, look, what's MAGA reading at? The fifth, sixth grade level? You know, we as a country are not nearly as smart as we need to be.

Like D.L. Hughley said last week, I think I told you the joke. know, Iran reads at a 94 % literacy rate. You know, the United States done fucking picked a war with the tech support. We are fucking screwed. We're being outwitted. We're being outmatched. We're being outmaneuvered because everybody around the world, Brock, is playing chess. We're playing.

Fucking checkers and having someone explain the rules to us. That's how far behind we are We don't even know how to play checkers and it's nonsense The fact that we're putting men and women in harm's way The fact that we're spending billions of dollars to knock down 20 and 30 thousand dollar drones The fact that we have no real understanding of how to prepare any

gauge in conflict because the people at the top are morons. The people at the top are podcasters, right? The people at the top are corrupt. That is what's killing American excellence right now. mean, we've said this before, we've acknowledged we are not going to recover America's brilliance in our lifetimes. You know, at 60, what do we got? 15, 20 left?

On the black hand side, might, I'm doing good if I make it to 77.

Brock Ganeles (05:09.093)
I was going to say you got, you got, you got 15 and I got 20. That's how that's how it works out. Right. Mark. But look, there's more reports that Russia is helping even more logistically satellites, GPS, all kinds of technology to help Iran hit more targets. Why? Because the more targets I ran hits the more

MARK HAYES (05:14.678)
You ready? Yep.

MARK HAYES (05:31.63)
Bye.

Brock Ganeles (05:37.312)
We turn around and allow Russia to sell more of their oil and natural gas. So we are bailing them out of their economic distress while they're fighting against us. It's so fucking idiotic. It's almost impossible as you say it. It doesn't even make sense. You're like, what the fuck am I saying? That was the strategy of this war. Let's put Russia and Iran in a position to enrich themselves.

MARK HAYES (06:00.674)
Bye.

MARK HAYES (06:04.27)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (06:05.357)
Let's alienate all of our allies except Israel and let's spend a billion dollars a day but we don't have money for health care and all kinds of other services in this country.

MARK HAYES (06:10.498)
Wubrack! Think!

MARK HAYES (06:18.634)
Right. We're cutting SNAP benefits. We are cutting education. We are cutting the process that allows people to become registered nurses. Right? We're cutting, cutting, cutting. But imagine this, Brock. Imagine Trump gets an email from his handler, Mr. Putin.

and tells him, want you to start this war so that I can enrich myself or, you know, the PP tapes come out and everything else that we got on you. All the compromise comes out because that's what's happening. That is only the only thing I can think of that makes sense. He's got a to-do list from Putin and he's carrying out these wants of Vladimir Putin. I mean, you just said it. Ukraine is the big loser.

Right? Russia couldn't defeat them with their so-called superpower army. Their army is shit. We saw that in the first month of them trying to invade Ukraine. Their army ain't shit. Now ours... Exactly. Right.

Brock Ganeles (07:20.303)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (07:24.154)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (07:29.165)
And they were feeling they were feeling the pain economically. And now we've eased that we've eased that we made it easier for Putin and Russia to continue this war because they're going to feel the pinch at home a little bit less. And that's a disgrace.

MARK HAYES (07:43.095)
and rep-

Right, and remember the other component to this Brock, right? Down at Mar-a-Lago, all those classified documents sitting in the shitter in the shower, right? You think they didn't make their way to How do they have so much information on what strategic sites to hit that they are just fucking up? They are fucking us up over there, costing us billions. And who ultimately pays? Us, the American taxpayer.

Who ultimately suffers right now with four to eight dollar gas? Us, the American consumer. Beef prices at an all time high. Right? We're not even getting the jobless numbers and shit anymore. Right? He doesn't even want us to know that we're in a recession. But we are. Because we know, because the dollar ain't shit right now.

Brock Ganeles (08:37.871)
Well, twofold. Number one is I can't even imagine us putting boots on the ground because soldiers will die left and right. And I know Trump doesn't care about soldiers, but I'm not even sure what we'd be getting out of that. Cause I think Trump wants, needs to get out of these higher gas prices because sadly the complacent white American no, who doesn't want to notice anything is going on around them, ignoring ice.

pretending like Trump's not a fucking moron still waving their MAGA flags does notice the fact that they're paying a dollar plus more a gallon at the pump today. Today when they want to maybe order a couple pizzas from Papa John's and watch some college basketball, that extra 20 bucks.

MARK HAYES (09:16.984)
right.

Brock Ganeles (09:28.483)
went out the window at the gas pump and they can't understand why we're in this war with Iran that's affecting them. So it's actually rattling. Even the most, you know, in a bubble white Americans possible are aggravated by the fact that they can't have their small pleasures in life because those dollars are going out the door to, you know,

MARK HAYES (09:45.038)
Sure?

MARK HAYES (09:58.978)
Yeah!

Brock Ganeles (09:59.094)
Middle Eastern countries again, right?

MARK HAYES (10:01.974)
Right, right. And you know what? It reminds me of your friend in New Orleans who just swipes, right, at the grocery counter. And, you know, not everybody has that luxury, right? But, you know, at the end of the month, after she's done swiping, she's noticing that the bill's higher, noticeably higher, right, when she's swiping at the gas pump, swiping at the grocery store, right, swiping at the beauty supply.

Swiping here, swiping there. And everything is more expensive. And you know what? We're seeing these candidates that are winning these special elections focusing on affordability. Isn't that right? They're focusing on affordability. And Donald Trump said, day one, prices were coming down.

Brock Ganeles (10:55.589)
Trump got elected because of the fucking price of eggs. As something as minuscule and stupid as the price of eggs, but it affected enough people and it became symbolic of like, inflation under Biden's too high. And Trump pounced on that and said he was gonna bring costs down day one. Of course he was fucking lying and couldn't do it and had no idea how to do it, but that's why he's president.

MARK HAYES (11:01.793)
I see bags.

MARK HAYES (11:16.82)
Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (11:19.225)
But, but Mike, Mark, think it's, think prices at the pump are actually even worse than prices at the grocery store because I think there's something psychological about sitting there because they're, we're all self-service now sitting there clicking the button. So you see the price.

MARK HAYES (11:24.896)
Yes, I do too.

MARK HAYES (11:33.207)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (11:37.702)
and holding down that nozzle and watching that fucking thing go up and up and up. And you have to sit there for like a minute and half, right, to fill your tank, maybe two minutes. I don't know how long it takes, but you're staring at your money going away as you're doing it. And I think it just bothers you even more when gas prices go up. It's just a weird dynamic of the way that the meter works.

MARK HAYES (11:37.752)
Just watch it in front.

MARK HAYES (11:44.268)
you

MARK HAYES (11:57.666)
Yeah. Yeah. Because

Right and you know at the grocery store you kind of take something out of the cart right You you pull one of those those luxury items, you know, maybe that second bag of potato chips for six dollars You know you pull that out of the cart you pull out another thing of cookies and now you don't save 14 bucks Right can't do that at the pump Right because some cars only take super unleaded Right, you know, you can't even put the 87 blend in

Brock Ganeles (12:28.079)
Yeah, you're just scared, you're just...

MARK HAYES (12:32.044)
You know, and then here in Georgia, we got some super blend, you know, 87 grade that, you know, come we got the summer blend, right, which means an extra three, four cents a gallon. So we got to deal with that shit coming up here in a couple of months. Plus, you know, the Trump tax, right. And the Trump tax is is not necessary. That's what we're finding out. That's what MAGA is learning the hard way.

Brock Ganeles (12:59.769)
war of choice. Yeah, was a decision and there's no strategy behind it and you can't figure out why we did it because the whole, we had to keep them from getting nuclear weapons just to that fell flat because people had already been told that.

MARK HAYES (13:10.798)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (13:15.673)
we had disabled their capability for nuclear weapons. So to go back to that and double dip on that same keeping us safe from something you told us you'd already kept us safe from like hasn't just, it just hasn't worked. It's sad to me that it's not the ice. It's not the people getting gunned down in the street in Minneapolis. It's not the riding. It's not the knocking down people's front doors with no warrants. It's not taking away our healthcare like all these things. It's not take.

MARK HAYES (13:19.149)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (13:45.64)
away America's aid in the world and letting babies all over the world starve. It's not taking away food stamps so that we have food lines that are like forever long. It's only when Selfish America has their own little you know pocketbook impacted that a portion of people are waking up. But if this is what it takes for them to wake up and realize that MAGA is screwing them then and that Trump has lies the lies

MARK HAYES (14:06.67)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (14:14.681)
that he tries to pull off and he's not as good at it anymore because he's old and slow. But the bold faced lies he's tried to tell to get himself out of this Iranian mess have, I think, amplified the mess because he can't come up with a lie that works.

MARK HAYES (14:20.184)
Right.

MARK HAYES (14:23.758)
Thank you very much.

MARK HAYES (14:32.738)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (14:32.837)
Because you came out the other day, you see where he saying that, CNN came with a poll and they have me at 100 % approval. It's like, come on, Nothing comes in at 100%. Like, that's just such a bad lie. It's like, come with something better than that. 100 % approval.

MARK HAYES (14:39.735)
I'm

MARK HAYES (14:47.938)
Farsicle. Fucking farsicle. my god. You know, the thing about it is and and see and that's why you know the fact that we're not getting the the the true economic indicator numbers because if it was even close he'd lie about it. Right? If it was if it was anywhere even close but it's nowhere near some place where he can even lie about it.

So he thinks that we're too stupid to realize that just because he didn't tell us, we're not feeling it. Right. And he thinks he can tell us any. I mean, the guy just like, I'm like, how's this shit coming out of his mouth? Like, why, why do you put him out here? Right. Cause he's doing more harm than good. There's no way, no way that anyone is advising him to say the shit that he's saying. when he gets a microphone in front of him.

Did you see the video of him patting the woman on her ass on her way out of the the Oval Off? It's like dude this 80 year old boy is copping feels! with yes Prime Minister from Japan!

Brock Ganeles (15:49.15)
I mean what the... Come on! He fucking made a... He made a Pearl Harbor crack when the Prime Minister of Japan was here. I mean he's a... he's a fucking embarrassment.

MARK HAYES (16:05.057)
my god, could you believe that? Who knows more about surprises than Japan?

Brock Ganeles (16:10.925)
do believe it because I believe anything that comes out of his mouth yet. Mark. He is. I'm trying to think of which, what famous football coach, Woody Hayes got fired for punching a player after an interception, but like he is probably bad. He is going to use the N word. It's he's going to use it. It's coming because he, he's, he skirts so close to it and

MARK HAYES (16:24.897)
I made a Greek!

MARK HAYES (16:29.1)
Yes, it's common. Yeah.

MARK HAYES (16:38.252)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (16:40.099)
His mind is getting softer and softer and he's not going to have the discipline to be able to like be as racist as he can be up to the line. He's just going to keep going over the line. Like that's the Pearl Harbor joke. that, like this is an ally you actually want at this point in time. And that's your way of ingratiating to a culture that's all about respect and faith. Like that's just the...

MARK HAYES (16:59.106)
Exactly!

Brock Ganeles (17:08.261)
It's just another indication of unfit for the job.

MARK HAYES (17:12.876)
Yep. Where's, you know, where is the strategic, We don't, we don't have it. The problem is there's no plan anywhere, right? None of these people have any forethought.

Brock Ganeles (17:19.727)
No one has it.

Brock Ganeles (17:28.663)
Now what in Iran? Tell me now what? Boots on the ground? How are going to get, how are we going to execute regime change unless you put boots on the ground? You can't. So we're caught now because we don't want to go further into this. It's already the worst military decision of our lifetimes.

MARK HAYES (17:32.835)
Dude.

MARK HAYES (17:36.76)
There is no way.

MARK HAYES (17:51.552)
Right. And here's the thing, he's the, we're trying to negotiate with Iran, but we got nobody to talk to. Well, first of all, you bond everybody, duh. And second of all, why do you think they want to talk to you? They've already made it abundantly clear that they are not about to shut this offensive down that they're engaged in. They're going to continue. Yeah, they're winning.

Brock Ganeles (18:13.818)
Why would they even?

How can they even show themselves because they're targets? Why would they even trust to leave whatever bunkers they're a hold up in? You think they're trusting that Israel's not gonna bomb them? You've basically stated regime change is your goal, which means everyone who is currently in the Iranian administration is a target and they've watched all their compadres get blown up.

MARK HAYES (18:23.607)
Yes!

MARK HAYES (18:27.522)
Thank you. Thank you.

MARK HAYES (18:40.95)
It's the target.

MARK HAYES (18:46.222)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (18:46.82)
So there's no fucking conversation, there's no meeting.

MARK HAYES (18:49.174)
No, no, bruh. And that's, why don't they know that? Why doesn't Hegseth and these clowns know that? And then speaking of Hegseth, his off-color remarks, speaking for families of fallen soldiers, talking about, they want us to keep killing until the job, really?

Because one of the dads came out and said, he's not speaking for me. I didn't have that conversation with him. He just says anything.

Brock Ganeles (19:18.736)
But he works for Trump, he just knows that lying is a part of the job. So he's got to spin it. The feelings of the military families do not come into play at all. They have no role in any of the messaging that comes out of our administration. No one gives a shit. They just love the jobs that they have.

MARK HAYES (19:41.174)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (19:46.799)
Heg says a crazy Christian nationalist, know, religious zealot. So he thinks he's in some sort of religious war in the Middle East. Just what we need. More religious fanatics with weaponry in the Middle East. I guess if there's not plenty of that shit on the other side as well. It's a huge problem, but...

MARK HAYES (19:59.777)
Right.

MARK HAYES (20:03.33)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (20:06.03)
I mean, Trump's polling so bad, I don't even know if they bother doing it anymore. I mean, he has to steal the election at this point. Everything that Trump does from this day till the election will be about him stealing it. I think he realizes he can't cancel it because the states run them and they can't get away with canceling them. So he's going to steal it. That's why the pressure is putting on everyone to pass the safe act, the biggest voter suppression act.

MARK HAYES (20:27.928)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (20:35.944)
in American history. That's why this is top of mind with him because he's got to steal this election. The first way to do it is he's got to have more rules in place so that it's easier to suppress the vote. And because the Iran war didn't work, he thought the war was going to boost his popularity.

MARK HAYES (20:41.676)
Night. Night.

MARK HAYES (20:49.942)
Yep. It doesn't look like

Brock Ganeles (20:57.24)
and it ended up being a fizzle. I'm waiting for him to return on Kushner and Netanyahu because you know he blames everyone eventually.

MARK HAYES (21:05.59)
Right, right. You know, and how is Kushner still floating around in the Middle East without getting his, you know, head chopped off or something on video? Like, how is he? How is he?

Brock Ganeles (21:15.75)
staying in safe spaces because the countries are benefiting. Saudi Arabia wanted us to bomb Iran. Israel wanted us to bomb Iran. there's enough of them that, you know, like they figured that paying off Kushner is a very, very inexpensive way to get the United States trillion dollar military working on their behalf. So greasing Kushner's palms is a cheap way to get a lot of weaponry.

MARK HAYES (21:38.85)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (21:45.453)
against your opponents. Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, some of those guys, I feel like they're losing a game that they thought they were going to win.

MARK HAYES (21:49.228)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (21:59.143)
You know, I think they're surprised that they're getting bombed and now all of a sudden they're never going to be viewed as, know, country club safe havens maybe ever again in that whole tourism boom in those countries, you know, maybe over, right? What else do you buy? Not right. Like everyone's going there to go up the big tower and those little, you know, they made themselves into a luxury resort. It's kind of hard to

MARK HAYES (21:59.553)
Yeah.

MARK HAYES (22:09.591)
Right.

MARK HAYES (22:16.32)
I tell you what.

Brock Ganeles (22:26.436)
get comfortable in a place that's so easily drone bombed by Iran.

MARK HAYES (22:30.766)
I don't have any desire to go over there for one of those vacation spots.

There is no way that's happening. Speaking of our corruption watch, you see how Barron pulled in about 70 million bucks on the crypto deal. He dropped in 30. Trump came out, made some sort of announcement, and the next thing you know, Barron grabs 100 mil and pulls it all out. And less than weekend.

Brock Ganeles (23:02.32)
thought you were gonna hit me with Lewandowski. The fact that every deal in DHS apparently had to go through him and his palm was getting greasy. everything. I mean, so him and Kristi Noem had quite...

MARK HAYES (23:10.286)
We'll hear.

MARK HAYES (23:16.63)
These guys are like the mafia!

Brock Ganeles (23:18.298)
I had quite the racket going, yeah, had to pay it like, pay your way, it pay to play. I hadn't seen the Baron thing, but I had taken notes to say my three, the three things that to me are just absolute fucking frauds. And the third one I know eventually is going to have some huge benefits, blah, blah, blah, blah.

MARK HAYES (23:21.838)
You have to pay to play! Yay!

Brock Ganeles (23:38.747)
But cryptocurrency is a fucking fraud. There's nothing behind it. It's not backed by the U.S. government. It's a sham. It always has been. It's shady. And the fact that these crypto billionaires are trying to influence elections so that they don't have regulation in their market. Crypto is a fucking scam. Has been from the beginning. I believe a digital currency makes some sense to me, but crypto, because it's

MARK HAYES (23:42.476)
Get Get to sham.

MARK HAYES (24:00.526)
It's a joke.

Brock Ganeles (24:09.0)
You know, it's not tied to the government. It's bad for America because it takes away our soft power So to me crypto and plus it's all about scam artists, right? There's nothing behind it And if the and if the wallet gets stolen, there's no FDIC backing. You're just kind of screwed. You're just screwed I hate fucking crypto. I think it should be made illegal and I look for the Democrats to come in and fucking

MARK HAYES (24:24.973)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (24:34.278)
put so much regulation on crypto that you take away 99 % of that market and maybe you leave the little bit that's legitimate. The second one of these prediction markets. These prediction markets are a fucking fraud. They're a scam. I thought that's where maybe where Baron was making his money because if you bet on, we're going to bomb Iran because all your father is the guy who's going to bomb Iran, that's a pretty safe bet for you.

MARK HAYES (24:37.602)
that it has to go away.

MARK HAYES (24:41.976)
Yeah.

MARK HAYES (24:48.045)
Yep.

MARK HAYES (24:59.606)
Yeah!

Brock Ganeles (25:00.836)
And that's these prediction markets are all about. Like if you have inside information, you're just going to steal money from everyone else. It is legalized insider trading theft. I don't know how these markets are actually legal. And they're so bad for national security because any of these gambling casinos, online casinos can easily get

MARK HAYES (25:07.854)
You're right.

Brock Ganeles (25:27.498)
any individual in a compromised position and people who owe a lot of money in compromised positions, sell, sell state secrets and at a desperation do some shit that's not in our national interest. It's like compromise, right? And we see what that can do.

MARK HAYES (25:30.936)
Thank you.

Boom!

MARK HAYES (25:43.011)
Yeah. Hey, we're seeing it in college sports. Guys throwing games because they get so much in debt. Because the gambling access is so, all you gotta do is have a phone. Right? If you got a phone, you can go on and bet ad nauseam right from the locker room like we've seen guys do.

Brock Ganeles (26:04.282)
There was a story about a journalist who's getting a shakedown because he was writing something about like some sort of military accursion and it was impacting these prediction markets and these fucking gamblers called him up, basically told him shut the fuck up because what he was disclosing could affect their bet because people they're betting on real world information. It's so fucking dangerous. But yeah, it's it's clearly corrupt, you know, corrupted sports and is creeping its way more further.

MARK HAYES (26:19.883)
Or else.

Brock Ganeles (26:34.216)
they're in, but it's kind of corrupting everything. And the third one is AI. is a f- AI, it's- stop with the it's gonna change the world. It's a fucking fraud. It's code written by like fucking right-wing Nazi geniuses, sad to say geniuses, and you can't believe the outcomes that you get from AI. It's just a consortium of the information that's being put into it. It's biased from the get-go and we need a huge crackdown on that.

MARK HAYES (26:53.516)
at all.

MARK HAYES (26:57.292)
Right. Yep.

But they got everybody fooled.

Brock Ganeles (27:03.905)
Huge crackdown on AI as well.

MARK HAYES (27:06.37)
They've got everybody fooled. And I don't know how.

Brock Ganeles (27:11.704)
And they're trying to manipulate elections as well with by throwing tons of money in there between crypto and AI fuckers, you know, because they want their data centers and they want AI being used in the military. you know, we we already have a sense that that fucking elementary school bombing was an AI blunder, but we haven't gotten we won't get to the bottom of it until we get a new regime in place. Anyway, that's my rant on those three fucking things.

MARK HAYES (27:16.426)
Exactly. Right.

MARK HAYES (27:25.4)
for any doubt they are.

MARK HAYES (27:30.733)
Right.

MARK HAYES (27:35.368)
Right. A new regime. We need a new government. But hey, you know, here's what's got me ticked off. Folks flocking to Epstein Island, and not just any folks, influencers, and I don't get it, Brock. Why would, why do you want to go to a place where so much pain

was inflicted on human beings and go there and shoot YouTube videos. And you know, this is part of the U.S. Virgin Islands. when we were talking in the pre-show meeting, the editorial meeting, so it's easy to get to, right? You can get there, you know, by shuttle or, you know, a small boat. You don't need, you know, a super yacht like Bezos or what's your boy's name, Lutnik.

Brock Ganeles (28:33.432)
Is there anyone on the island? So when you like take a boat and you like, mean, I guess there's a dock and you put your boat at the dock and you walk on the island, is it inhabited? Like, are there people there? There's no stores there, right? There's no community there. Is there like, was a private island? You just walk around and it's like.

MARK HAYES (28:33.515)
you know, who bought his daughters there.

MARK HAYES (28:50.827)
Yeah, it's probably one of those deals where you know, got to take the boat, you know to go pick up your rations for You know weeks at a time. I can't imagine there's a Costco on Epstein Island, you know Sheesh, that's for rich people. That's rich people shit where they get deliveries and shit

Brock Ganeles (29:09.872)
People will, the reason that YouTube influencers are doing it is because they think they'll get the eyeballs, right? It's as simple as that. They think people, people, meaning the public, the general public, loves this kind of, you know, salacious TMZ-ish type of shit, and they can generate.

MARK HAYES (29:25.587)
Salacious crap.

Brock Ganeles (29:33.046)
Interest which is all they care about they live for the clicks, right? So they're gonna go anywhere to get them that to me It seems like I mean, it'll it'll take a new regime like it seems like Epstein Island should be a crime scene And there should be like yellow tape around Epstein Island, right and like no one should be cruel cruising around there

MARK HAYES (29:50.733)
All right, what do you think?

I mean, you would think.

Dude, it hurts me and it really indicates the collapse and decay of our moral fiber here in this country. When we think that shooting a video where so many people have been brutalized and lost their lives is worth a viral moment. That's fucked up.

Brock Ganeles (30:27.12)
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I hope it hurts these influencers who do that. It probably won't, but it just seems like if that's where you gotta go for your content, like, woof, you know, what's your value add? that's, yeah. Yeah. That's bad.

MARK HAYES (30:28.011)
That is fucked up.

MARK HAYES (30:39.222)
Right.

Right. I was fucking scared. And it's sick. All right, bro, let's wrap it up right there. I just lost my appetite. But yeah, let's rack it up and do it again tomorrow. Great to see you again after a couple of days off. Oh, by the way, I have referred you to HR for unexcused absences. you should.

Brock Ganeles (30:59.213)
All right, Mark.

Brock Ganeles (31:05.254)
That was all about me. All about me, my apologies. I'll be ready to go at five o'clock tomorrow. All right, Mark, always a pleasure. Okay, talk to you tomorrow.

MARK HAYES (31:09.294)
That was good buddy.