2 Men In Black and White: An Honest Conversation

Mark Hayes (00:01.422)
Alright ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another exciting edition. Two Minute Black and White, an Honest Conversation. The SEC, the football conference notably, is made up of predominantly black athletes. And we remember the old Sam Bam Cunningham story. The legend has it that Sam Bam came to Alabama, Tuscaloosa as a matter of fact, blew the doors off the Crimson Tide and Bear Bryant said, we better get us some black boy.

And that's exactly what they did. And now the SEC positions itself as the premier conference in college football. But now some people are saying, hey, the South is where all our rights are being taken away on a regular basis, just like they have been throughout history. And our black boys should not be going there. Brock Ginellis, what say you? Ryan Clark, Eddie Glaude, D.L. Hughley.

activists, entertainers, scholars, three different fields here coming at you. Eddie Gloud, The Ivy League educator, right? DL Hughley, the comedian turned activist. And Ryan Clark, an LSU Tiger alum, former NFL player who almost died by the way.

playing a game in Mile High. And current pivot podcaster, very popular podcast, huge following, an NFL analyst, they're all saying, stop going to the... Brock, we've been saying this since the beginning of time. We've had one five-star athlete commit to an HBCU. And that was with Deion Sanders and Travis Hill.

Brock Ganeles (02:01.682)
Travis Hunter.

Mark Hayes (02:01.966)
Travis Hunter over at Jackson State. That's it. That's it. Kids are afraid. They don't want to lose out on the opportunity. They don't want to give up the dream. Hmm. Now Travis Hunter still made it.

Why can't the others? What say you, my friend? Should these young kids give up the dream to fix a problem the adults started?

and history repeated.

Brock Ganeles (02:35.268)
I mean, it would move the needle, right? It would starve the racist white South of its entertainment, right? Of its glorious Saturday afternoons and Friday nights in LSU and Saturday afternoons in Alabama and down in Florida. It's putting a lot on a bunch of 18 year olds to say, we need you to make the moral stance to trigger

you know, in essence, the revolution against the white supremacy movement. It's a lot to ask. Is it too much to ask? mean, you know, the civil rights movement had a lot of young people at the front of the line. It's just going to, it's going to be a hard one to pull off. would love to see it because we know if you take taking things away from white America, you take their football prominence away. I mean, that is like one of the biggest sources of pride of the

higher region, right? Saturday afternoons are sacred. I don't know if they could pull it off. I would love to see it as I was hearing it from DL Hughley. When I saw his post on Instagram, I was also thinking of the Met Gala and all the people that showed up there and how we complained about that. And it's only Tahiji P Henson who's come out and said, what were you all doing there? How do I pronounce it? Taraji, right?

Mark Hayes (03:57.398)
he. Turaji. Turaji.

Brock Ganeles (04:02.194)
for, she was also the one that told everyone to read project 2025 and then look what's coming your way. Right. So to me, she might end up becoming a leader of this whole movement. Um, it's just, it's hard. It's going to be hard to get the athlete and entertainers to lead this, this charge, but I would love to see it. It would be so impactful. Even if just a couple, particularly quarterbacks, high skilled position players said, no, I'm decommitting from

Mark Hayes (04:06.796)
Yes. Right.

Brock Ganeles (04:31.748)
University of Florida, University of Alabama, University of Texas, and I'm instead, I'm going to like UCLA or something like that.

Mark Hayes (04:39.694)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the thing though, Brock. We're talking about generational wealth. Jeremiah Love just came out in a post, I believe it was a blog post, where he was being interviewed about his contract that he was going to sign with the Arizona Cardinals as the number two overall draft pick, right? Running back, Notre Dame. And his quote was,

You know, I'm from the NIL era. I'm well off. You know, it doesn't matter what my contract is. I'm not gonna be spending any of that money anyway. So he's got money put away for him, his family, and that's what he talked about, generational wealth. Now you're asking a 17, 18 year old family, right? Because there's probably not another multimillionaire in that family.

This is it. This one guy. You're asking that family to make this sacrifice. Now, can they decommit and probably get another offer somewhere? You know, they're that good? Yeah. But will they? Maybe it's always been their dream to play, you know, in between the hedges at Georgia or, you know, down in Tuscaloosa.

Right? There's nothing like 105,000 scream and roll tide fans, you know, on a Saturday night, you know, in a battle with Auburn. You know, some kids grew up wanting to play in that game. It's a lot to ask, but I understand why they're doing it. You have a state senator in Louisiana who is using the words of George Wallace.

to vote for the voter nullification bill. Meanwhile, he's the announcer for the LSU football and basketball games. And he's George Wallace, the renowned, fantastical racist who said segregation, then segregation, now segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.

Mark Hayes (07:06.796)
He said he's gonna vote for this bill today, tomorrow, and for the rest of his entire life. Meanwhile, he's making a living off the backs of black athletes. Is there a bigger hypocrite in America?

Brock Ganeles (07:19.76)
That's unfucking believable. But, nah, it is believable. It is believable, right? Because the black athletes are just the labor. They're just getting paid now. It's going to be tricky. Hey, the money might be equivalent in some other places, certainly in the Big Ten. Now, in football, maybe there aren't many places where it competes with the SEC. Probably only in the Big Ten. But in terms of basketball players, it'd be a lot easier.

Mark Hayes (07:24.034)
Tupperville, right? Yeah.

Mark Hayes (07:29.752)
Right.

Mark Hayes (07:35.404)
Yep. Yep.

Brock Ganeles (07:47.795)
Cause there's so many other options with big dollars floating around. We're going to have to see, we're going to have to watch this one closely. It really, I just want to see that first or second athlete that makes that kind of decision. I'd like to see some NBA players. What if they say, I'm not going to go and sign with the team that's in an area where I, where is limiting my ability to vote.

Mark Hayes (07:54.019)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (08:09.229)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (08:14.224)
What if like Shay Gilgis Alexander of Oklahoma City says when his contracts up

Mark Hayes (08:21.208)
Yup.

Brock Ganeles (08:22.15)
You know what? I'm looking to move to a team in the Northeast or maybe I'm going to, want to go sign with Toronto because he's from Canada and go to a place where I'm more welcome and in a society that, I think is more fair and equal. mean, it would just be amazing to see, you know, athletes take those kinds of stands. used to write Ali did, you know, a bunch of players in 68 boycott the Olympics, Spencer Haywood and others. were more, Jim Brown was an activist.

Mark Hayes (08:28.428)
Maybe I want to go back home. Yeah, maybe I want to go back.

Brock Ganeles (08:53.626)
I'm glad it's being talked about. I'm just concerned about it actually being able to occur. It seems logical to us, but when you laid out the dollars and what it means to families and an 18 year old is going to tell his whole family that's going to change all their lives if he signs at University of Georgia that he's going to take less money at like

Mark Hayes (09:02.466)
Right.

Mark Hayes (09:12.258)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (09:22.194)
I don't know Wake Forest, Maryland, Michigan State, Wisconsin, because there's voting rights there. That'd be a tough decision to lay on the 18 year old who comes from a family that really needs the money.

Mark Hayes (09:39.68)
Right and here's the thing you don't get a do-over you get one shot one shot right and then You have to deal with a blackball issue Right, we saw what happened to collin cappernic

Mark Hayes (10:00.054)
Same thing, different story, but same issue. Right? Police brutality, voting rights.

Brock Ganeles (10:04.466)
Yeah, you want to transfer and get in that portal and all of a sudden no one wants to take you out.

Mark Hayes (10:08.94)
No one takes you, right? Look, the news media is not reporting on the thousands and thousands of kids that are in the portal and have no deal. We're only talking about the elite few that got in the portal and went from one power forward to another. We're not talking about all the kids who made the choice to try to make the leap and have nowhere to land.

Brock Ganeles (10:27.238)
But, you know.

Brock Ganeles (10:33.778)
It's why takes collective action. It's why unions are so important. I mean, in essence, these college kids are going to have to unionize at some point, because right now it's the Wild West.

Mark Hayes (10:37.782)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (10:44.454)
to get protections if they get injured or screwed over by a coach that they're going to have some sort of protections that get back to the Met Gala. That's why I was so pissed at the activity of the Met Gala because Paige Becker's and Asia Wilson are there and their union just won big dollars for them and they're chumming up with Bezos and all those actors in the Screen Actors Guild are chumming it up with Bezos and they didn't even need to be there.

That was a side gig.

Mark Hayes (11:13.71)
Right. Well, think about the NFL players that you had there as well. You had a handful of prominent NFL players, including Jalen Hurts, right, who came from Alabama, right? And, you know, not understanding. See, I think this is the problem we're running into, is that they don't understand the global implications of their decisions, right? Because nobody, look.

If Jalen Hurts is not at that party, no one cares. No one knows. But now everybody knows he was there. Saquon Barkley, same thing. He was there. Now Saquon Barkley also went to the White House after the Eagles won their championship. And a lot of

Brock Ganeles (12:01.03)
Yeah, got played by Trump. He put him on some commission then without even asking him, but he got used and played as they all do. What's interesting is the Las Vegas quarterback who was the Indiana University quarterbacks, it's up in the air whether he's going to go when the team is honored. You know, I would love to him to make a statement and not go Mendoza. I know it's hard to make a statement, but if no one ever makes it, it just keeps getting harder for the next person and the next person.

Mark Hayes (12:05.506)
Yep. Yep. Yep.

Mark Hayes (12:18.556)
And, what's up?

Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (12:28.306)
That's why I'm pissed at these athletes who don't speak out. I'm pissed at anyone who rolls along just to get along. You're hurting the cause. We're losing because individuals are afraid to step up. takes collective. It takes some courage from some and it takes collective action from others. But people have to start, start learning to connect the dots. You can't just go along like

Mark Hayes (12:28.461)
Right.

Mark Hayes (12:34.816)
Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (12:57.936)
with Jeff Bezos who destroyed the Washington Post, trying to, who is a part of the propaganda network, who's trying to bust unions. you're comfortable with both of those things? Okay, well guess go to your party, but then you're, you're kind of announcing that you're MAGA adjacent.

Mark Hayes (13:14.08)
Right? Right? And again, Brock, we're back to the old adage, there are not good people on both sides. There are not. We know MAGA is a bunch of degenerate and deviant and diabolical human beings. Did you see the Tennessee legislature and state senators coming out of the gerrymander meeting laughing at the crowd?

Brock Ganeles (13:44.283)
Laughing.

Mark Hayes (13:45.305)
just thumbing his nose at him, thought it was funny. State troopers putting their hands on those young African-American state senators, two of the Tennessee three. You know, Brock, we are what we are. We're not better than that, right? We are a racist ass country. And...

And the only place, the only segment of society that is punished for standing up for itself is African Americans, especially Black women. 600,000 Black women out of work now. AI is projected to make billions and billions of dollars. Elon Musk is now currently in federal court saying, should have the ability to discriminate.

against black Americans. He's arguing for that right. He's not even a fucking American citizen.

Brock Ganeles (14:48.914)
as a freedom, right? He views it as a freedom. Well, look, once again in Tennessee, as the state senators were laughing, I mean, it looked like footage from the 1960s, right? It really did. All that footage looked like it was shot out of a cannon from 60 years ago, we reverted back to there and before. But what if some players just start? What if it? What if it?

Mark Hayes (15:01.592)
Right. Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (15:16.13)
NBA draft pickets picked by Memphis Grizzlies and says, I don't want to go to Tennessee. Why is the league making me go to Tennessee? Why don't I have the freedom to go play where I'm comfortable? Why do I have to go live in a state where my vote is muted and refuses to go play for the Memphis Grizzlies? Things like that would shake shit up. You know, I've always I've always said the NFL needs to be broken for racism in America to be broken.

Mark Hayes (15:36.365)
Yes.

Mark Hayes (15:41.87)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (15:43.783)
But there's other sports as well, right? Sports is such a microcosm of American society. And it's such a place where black talent gets, you know, exploited and used by ownership. It's a classic ownership labor, you know, dispute. Now it's high priced talent. So we're not going to shed a tear for them the way that we're going to fight for Amazon workers.

Mark Hayes (15:50.223)
for sure.

Mark Hayes (15:55.811)
Used. Yep.

Brock Ganeles (16:11.196)
who are kind of getting run over by robots and forklifts at minimum wage. But it's the same fight. On principle, it's the same fight of ownership versus labor.

Mark Hayes (16:15.79)
Right.

Mark Hayes (16:26.626)
Yep. And you know, the thing about it is they're not even hiding it anymore. Think about it. If they could pay Patrick Mahomes $250 million over the life of his contract, what was it? 10 years? I don't know what it was. How much are the owners making? And why are we not having that conversation? Why are we not having the conversation about retired players in the NFL that are dying early? Right?

We had one movie come out and the NFL lost its mind when the Will Smith concussion movie came out about the doctor that identified CTE. We've had prominent NFL players take their own lives and yet the NFL does nothing. You know, they put some graphics in the end zone and racism and racism. All right, get a black owner.

Get a majority black owner in the league.

you don't want one? Huh. Because you don't want people to hear what you are saying in those NFL owners meetings when they decide who will be where, who will be what, and who is capable of owning a team. Right? Those are the 32 dudes that tell Roger Goodell what he is going to do if he wants to keep his $50 million salary per year.

It's a joke.

Brock Ganeles (17:57.009)
How that league is run is emblematic of the way, you know, corporate American, all of business runs in America, who gets promoted, who gets to run stuff and who has to grind it out day in and day out, often at their own peril and their own risk. As we roll back regulations, the laborers and the workers are put at more and more risk, just as the NFL discovered that the players had CTE, but nothing has been done.

Mark Hayes (18:00.419)
Yeah, I think so. Yep. Yep.

Mark Hayes (18:13.901)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (18:27.538)
to compensate and or to really make them much safer. Same shit goes on player gets a concussion. He goes in a tent, comes back out, coach wants him out back on the field. Nothing's really changed. It's a lip. Once again, it's lip service. Just like the Rooney rule was lip service to DEI. And now that rule basically doesn't exist. There's still no black code. Just no progress has ever made. And it's no different than as you mentioned the other day, C suites in the fortune 500.

Mark Hayes (18:42.604)
Lift.

Mm-hmm.

Brock Ganeles (18:57.85)
Same people are getting the job. Same people are running shit. Same people are owning shit. In fact, the Trump Maga Project 2025 era is even doubling down on that type of society because they actually believe that they're superior human beings and democracy doesn't really work. And therefore a certain group of elites should be running things.

Read some of the manifestos coming out of those tech bros, California, those Palantir fucking lunatics and Peter Thiel. Read about what they really, really think.

Mark Hayes (19:34.572)
Yeah. Yeah.

Believe. Yeah. Well, we just saw the information that came out about the founder of the Heritage Foundation, who spent his formative years, decades, at least a decade trying to figure out how to tear apart systematically the black community, the black family, the African-American experience.

That was his goal. That was what he studied. How do I break apart Black America? And here he is, Authoring Project 2025, getting it done day by day by day. Look at the rollbacks that have happened for Black America in 16 months. Just since Cheadle Mussolini took office. 16 months. Rockin' America has lost.

in so many areas. You know how many homes we're going to be losing? Do you know how bad it's going to be at this current pace at the end of four years? And who knows if it extends beyond because we're not going to have a say. We're not going to have a vote. It's going to be next to impossible to cast your vote. Now wonder they're doing all this stuff.

They don't plan on having a fair election. They don't plan on making it a fair fight. They had one predominantly African American district in Mississippi. It's gone. There are none left in Tennessee, I believe. Right? They're getting rid of all of them. Getting rid of all of them. Right? And we're supposed to vote for Brad Raffensperger here in Georgia, who was a part of the Kemp regime.

Mark Hayes (21:33.679)
When Governor Kemp was the Secretary of State and removed a million names from the voter roll in order to beat Stacey Abram by 50,000 votes. See, the demographic has changed in the South. All these Southern states, if they're not blue, they're damn close. Demographically, they are blue. Georgia is blue. We know this. Mississippi is blue. Texas. Texas.

is blue. Like Jasmine Crockett just told you when she got screwed by the Democratic Party, there are four million African American Texans of voting age. Four million. Why do you think they only have one drop-off ballot box in the county that surrounds Houston?

That's why. Because they know in a fair fight, the numbers don't go their way. Nobody lives in the middle of the country. Nobody lives in Iowa. Nobody lives in Wyoming, Idaho, in these places. What is it? 2.3 million people live in Wyoming? 3 million tops. Google it. Google is free. We know the numbers don't lean Republicans' way.

MAGA's way. But white America's okay with winning however you can. you well well I used to have a coach say hey if you ain't cheating you ain't trying. Get up under his pads and hold him. Don't let him tie up that hole. If you ain't cheating you ain't trying. That's how it goes in politics as well.

Brock Ganeles (23:18.268)
But MAGA knows that game and the left has not played that game aggressively. Right? We're always trying to be trying to like tamp things down, but you anytime we're not fighting, we're losing ground because this white supremacy movement is always looking to take more. And once they get one thing, they're moving on to the next. There's never any dialing back.

Mark Hayes (23:22.733)
They need to try.

Mark Hayes (23:31.182)
Right.

Mark Hayes (23:42.179)
Nope, nope, not at all. And there won't be. And they're going to continue the pressure. They're going to continue to make all the money. They're going to continue to make AI. AI, just like we found out, what, two, three years ago that the Instagram, Facebook, YouTube algorithms are also skewed toward white influencers. Right, what does that do?

Brock Ganeles (23:43.826)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (24:08.556)
That keeps the brown people from making their money, makes it that much harder for you to find your following and find your audience so that you can make some paper. Right? What's the first thing that started happening when the NIL money started going to predominantly black athletes?

Let's knock it off says Nick Saban and Tommy Tuberville and you know, Cheeto Mussolini. Jello Jello Jello Fat Don, you know, the rapist, right? The pedophile, the sexual assault. He was found liable of sexual assault and still hasn't paid.

Right? Because what's he trying to do? He's trying to get that case to the Supreme Court so his six lunatic buddies will throw it out.

Unbelievable. It's unbelievable how far this country is.

Brock Ganeles (25:05.654)
Is the anger, okay, let's go back to the question posited earlier. Is the anger approaching a boiling point?

Mark Hayes (25:10.254)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (25:16.974)
I mean, I know my contemporaries are pissed. Now how pissed to get out in the streets? That's gonna be another conversation. Yeah, we might be pissed enough to start getting to the voter registration booth and getting everybody signed up to vote and making sure everyone has a right to vote and coming out in force.

to cash your ballot. know lots of people are voting early here in Georgia. I think we have until the 19th to get your vote in. But it is one of those deals where you have got to be a part of the solution. There is no sitting idly by waiting for somebody else to figure it out. Brock, we've been saying it for over a year now. The cavalry's not coming. There is no

rescue unit on the way. We are Black Hawk down and no one's coming.

Brock Ganeles (26:19.442)
Can one of these Tennessee 3, Tennessee 2 black guys emerge as a primary voice that resonates?

through the black community, would think certainly, because especially that one guy is a great orator, to break through into complacent white America, which is clearly not angry enough. So white America is concerned about democracy, but I don't see a lot of voices out there screaming from the hilltops that predominantly black districts are being lost.

I just don't see it, I don't hear it. So, complacent white America certainly is an ang-

Mark Hayes (27:06.125)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (27:09.634)
Well, you know where you see it in here, it is on the, you know, black themed African-American themed podcast networks, DL Hughley, Recy Colbert, Roland Martin, but you don't see them getting the kind of numbers they get, you know, on the Blaze, Dana Lesh, what's her name, Megyn Kelly, these lunatic right-wingers are getting. But if you're, you know, tuned into the black networks,

you're gonna see it. And it's just like everything else. The field is tilted toward white America to get the message out there white America wants to have out there.

Brock Ganeles (27:56.253)
What's the action items are talking about? it right now? It's like everyone's got a registered a vote. We can overwhelm the event is gerrymander if enough people vote that like they is there a they can't hold us back if we all show up sort of mantra yet.

Mark Hayes (28:14.346)
Yeah, I think it's getting there. I think it's getting there.

Brock Ganeles (28:18.352)
mean, it's got six months to get there, but there's got to work that has to be done between now and election day.

Mark Hayes (28:24.128)
A lot of it. And you're hearing people talking about coalescing, especially in the D9 sororities and fraternities, the NAACP, the Urban League, many of these organizations are talking about just how much the African-American community is under assault. again, that's how it's going to have to happen. It's going to have to be our own

solution. We don't have any allies anywhere.

Brock Ganeles (29:01.424)
Yeah, I mean, come on. mean, it's like a message to white America. It's like, come on. Democracy lost is democracy lost for everyone. So if we're not going to step up and make a lot of noise right now and fight for the relevance, basically, of the black vote, then what the fuck are we doing around here? Then we're just rolling along with a white supremacy movement like there's no middle ground like either you're fighting

Mark Hayes (29:09.645)
Right.

Mark Hayes (29:28.8)
No? No.

Brock Ganeles (29:31.238)
for everyone or you're fighting for no one and I still see too much of white America's fighting for no one. And that's, you know, that's still frustrating. There's not enough messaging. There's not enough voices out there speaking on behalf of black people. Not to mention Latinos that are still getting fucking tackled in the middle of streets, thrown in vans and thrown into concentration camps.

Mark Hayes (29:33.016)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (29:40.035)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (29:56.651)
Right, right. I mean, it's sad, bro. It is absolutely horrible. And, you know, the fact that we're just sitting here as Americans, we're just watching it. I mean, how does, you know, America sit here and say, yeah, we don't, we don't really see it. You didn't see Alex Preti, you didn't see Renee Goode?

You know, we know you didn't see Philando Castile. We know you didn't see George Floyd. We know you didn't see Trayvon Martin. You know, we know, right? Just comply, you told us. I think it's all in your imagination. Don't be so radical. Don't be so hostile.

Mark Hayes (30:51.19)
And now look where we are. Look where we are since the OJ Simpson and Rodney King cases. We've gone back in time. Back in time. Those two events.

Those two events in the crime bill really sent us back in time when it came to accepting Black America anywhere but the fields of entertainment and sports.

Mark Hayes (31:27.19)
And we even had a black president since then.

Mark Hayes (31:34.092)
So I don't know, man.

Brock Ganeles (31:34.227)
Well, this assault on voting rights just puts to bed any notion that America is not just an absolute racist country. And I don't know how white people are going to twist themselves into knots and pretzels, still trying to talk around it. We see it on our own chat board. I I've seen now a of feeds of people saying, oh, I'm not MAGA, I'm a Republican. It's you that put that MAGA label on me.

Mark Hayes (31:43.054)
No, that's it.

Mark Hayes (31:49.922)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (32:04.114)
So they're already trying to sort of distance themselves from the worst of the worst, but it's like, no, you're fucking MAGA. Like you wore the hat, you voted for Trump three times. Like you can't distance yourself from it. It's who you are. It's where you are, where you stand and you haven't backed away from it. Like leave the party, vote differently. It'll kill the gerrymander if a bunch of people leave the fucking party and vote differently.

Mark Hayes (32:14.946)
period.

Triple Trump.

Mark Hayes (32:24.834)
Yeah. Yep.

Mark Hayes (32:32.46)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (32:33.062)
that it'll change the whole country. But I'm just not betting that we're gonna get that. We've had some big swings, but have they been enough to overcome the gerrymander and the Supreme Court? And we don't have the message and we still don't have the leaders.

Mark Hayes (32:50.156)
Nope. And how hard is it to message that they're taking everything they possibly can from you? That's the message.

saying rocket surgery, that's the message.

All right, buddy, we're out of time. We have to rack it up and do it again tomorrow. What say you?

Brock Ganeles (33:13.842)
I got one for you, one quick hit for you. Just under the heading of fake populism, Trump supposedly was a populist defined as a movement that's the people versus the corrupt elite. And somehow he gets labeled with the term as being a populist, like he's on the side of the people versus the corrupt elite. The latest is the Trump phones. Remember those? I saw a figure today were 750,000 people.

Mark Hayes (33:16.492)
Give it to me.

Brock Ganeles (33:41.565)
pre-order the Trump phones put it down Put now just put it down payment down not the full 500 just put it down payment down Not a single phone has fucking showed up. There are no Trump phones never happened was nothing nothing burger total fraud smoke Just money just a check cut. No one knows where it but

Mark Hayes (33:44.404)
for 500 bucks a lap.

Mark Hayes (33:49.998)
in.

Mark Hayes (33:55.905)
you

Nice.

Mark Hayes (34:06.68)
Guys...

Brock Ganeles (34:07.856)
chances are Trump bank account just didn't exist. Our president is committing open and outright fraud like that on his own followers and it won't peel away.

Mark Hayes (34:24.162)
Yup. And Brockett has to be because he doesn't plan on needing their vote. It has to be. They can't be that stupid, can they?

Brock Ganeles (34:36.88)
They can be. It could be both. It could be both. He doesn't need them and they're that stupid, but it's not just that they're that stupid. It's that they're that racist. They'll roll along with anything. You can take anything away from them, but do not take away their racism. So he's actually...

Mark Hayes (34:39.31)
That's green. That's green.

Mark Hayes (34:48.812)
Right. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (34:55.597)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (34:58.172)
thrown gasoline on the racism fire and take and just he's taken one by one taking shit from them. But this is a funny one because like this is one like they just didn't make fucking phones. They took the money and they just had no intention of ever.

Mark Hayes (35:09.815)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (35:16.774)
having an actual deliverable product.

Mark Hayes (35:19.391)
Unbelievable. All right, bro. Great way to end with more Trump corruption.

Brock Ganeles (35:23.954)
Alright Mark, always a pleasure. We'll pick it up tomorrow.

Mark Hayes (35:28.374)
revolution.