2 Men In Black and White: An Honest Conversation

Mark Hayes (00:00.206)
But now I see we are. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Another exciting edition, two men in black and white at Honest Conversation. How much is enough? It's 3,700 trades on Wall Street from the leader of

Brock Ganeles (00:00.268)
for a lot.

Brock Ganeles (00:31.818)
Mark, you still there?

Mark Hayes (02:56.318)
Didn't you hear me?

Can hear me?

Mark Hayes (03:03.903)
You got me? Hello? Hello?

Hello?

Hello?

Mark Hayes (03:17.585)
See me?

Brock Ganeles (03:36.08)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (03:36.703)
You see me? Okay.

Brock Ganeles (03:44.292)
back on. I guess we've been rolling live for a few minutes.

Mark Hayes (03:48.348)
my goodness. All right. Sorry about that, folks. But let's get right into it, Brock. 3,700 trades. Wall Street's insiders are shocked. I mean, this is your wheel. How much money are we talking? We're talking tens of millions of dollars that he is just throwing in his pockets because he's making the decisions.

and passing the information along to those ever doing the trading for.

Brock Ganeles (04:21.634)
It's a shocking amount of trading for really even an aggressive hedge fund on wall street. It's it's kind of a it's a it's a high number of trades. I mean maybe some like Stevie Cohen would have maybe been at a higher number, but it's still it's just a high number for any but it's just so blatantly corrupt now and it just points out why we shouldn't be letting congress trade stocks either. But no one has more influence over

Mark Hayes (04:29.605)
Right.

Mark Hayes (04:43.042)
Right. That's the problem.

Mark Hayes (04:48.924)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (04:52.708)
world events and therefore can always be ahead of the information. I mean, it is the most classic instance or definitionally of insider trading that you could possibly get. let me go long oil stocks cause I'm going to bomb Iran and it's going to fuck up the straight away moves and all those stocks are going to go up because the price of oil is going up. Well, who knows when we're going to be bombing, but the president, mean,

Mark Hayes (04:55.174)
and the president.

Mark Hayes (05:04.774)
Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (05:18.158)
It's the easiest money in the world. mean, he could be in the, we don't know in the billions, hundreds of millions at least, but maybe in the billions depending upon what the dollar value is of all these trades.

Mark Hayes (05:21.424)
Right.

Mark Hayes (05:30.941)
And see, I think that's the part of this corrupt family business that I hate the most. We don't really know how much they're really raking in. This is just the stuff we can see. Why is Vladimir Putin all of a sudden meeting with Xi the week after Trump is there? That's a problem.

Brock Ganeles (05:58.672)
But look Mark, every president in history but Trump has actually released his taxes. So you would know how much money then was made on stock trading. Trump's the only one who hasn't, but yet he's the only one then who sued the IRS and had a fake settlement to get a $1.8 billion slush fund as well. mean, is so blatant, but this one with the trading, remember Martha Stewart went to fucking jail.

Mark Hayes (06:05.51)
Right.

Mark Hayes (06:09.753)
Right.

Mark Hayes (06:18.598)
Right. Over and Saturday.

Brock Ganeles (06:26.278)
because her broker called her and gave her a heads up on something and she sold some stock and she went to jail over it. One trade we're talking about, you may be saved, you know, in the thousands of dollars and the president is trading on insider information, which is the knowledge of events that are non-public on a day, like hundreds of times on a daily basis. But here's the thing, everyone in Maga world,

Mark Hayes (06:31.717)
Right. Right.

Right.

Mark Hayes (06:39.718)
Right.

Mark Hayes (06:48.695)
Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (06:55.542)
knows that this is wrong at a gut level. They don't need to have the SEC handbook in front of them to know this must be fucking wrong. And there's a reason why no other president in history ever did anything, even in one trade, one trade that wasn't in a blind trust.

Mark Hayes (07:04.345)
Right. Right.

Mark Hayes (07:11.385)
Even remotely close. Right. Right. Right. And you know, the thing about this guy is he doesn't give a shit. He must not plan on leaving office because somebody's gonna have to prosecute this guy. You know, somebody's gonna have to let their balls drop and not go in there, Merrick Garland us, go in there and find out all the correct.

Because look, you got an entire cabinet engaged in this kind of activity. You think people are sitting back watching him make millions and not trying to get on board? We can investigate this entire cabinet. And I bet you the whole of the cabinet comes out dirty. They're already dirty.

Brock Ganeles (08:00.57)
That's why anyone who thinks that he's not going to try to rig the election is absolutely fucking crazy. Because of course he is, because he can't trust not having the power anymore because he knows how corrupt he is. He always has. He knows how implicated he is in the Epstein files. He knows where he stands with all those women that he molested and raped. He knows.

Mark Hayes (08:05.371)
Mark Hayes (08:11.077)
Right? Yes, right.

Mark Hayes (08:18.598)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (08:25.2)
Yep. And that's why, again, he had to be, he wasn't running to be president. He was running to stay out of prison. And that's what he's doing that he's rigging elections to stay out of prison. You can't.

Brock Ganeles (08:39.622)
The most important thing for him is to manage the DOJ. That's the most important thing in Donald Trump's life. Second most important is to be able to raid the treasury, but most important is to control the Department of Justice. So therefore nothing comes back on him. That's the most important thing. So he can't really give up. It's gonna be hard enough giving up.

Mark Hayes (08:46.651)
Right.

Mark Hayes (08:56.441)
Right.

Mark Hayes (09:00.379)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (09:05.814)
losing the congress so that they can investigate things and have open forums and you know embarrass him with investigations and different commissions but he can't lose the presidency ever for the rest of his life because he has to have control of the DOJ

Mark Hayes (09:11.803)
Right. Right.

Mark Hayes (09:23.239)
absolutely. Absolutely.

Brock Ganeles (09:24.326)
because he can't even trust Vance or whoever would become president after him because he doesn't trust anyone and he shouldn't.

Mark Hayes (09:28.877)
Right.

Yeah, Brock, we're talking about 120 days. No, mean, 90 days in a quarter. And 3700 trades. I mean, that is ludicrous. What's that? 40 trades a day?

Brock Ganeles (09:47.3)
Night. Yeah, but you're that's 90 days. That means it's probably closer to like 60 or so trading days. So that's really 60 plus trades per day. It's like a day trader. He's like some kid in his basement day trading, except that he's got all the information and knows exactly which way most stocks are going to go because he knows the exact legislation and or military operations that are going to have the greatest impact on that stock and the industry of that stock.

Mark Hayes (09:51.003)
Yeah, right. Right. Right.

some fat guy sitting in his basement.

Brock Ganeles (10:17.765)
It's

Mark Hayes (10:18.063)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (10:20.214)
It's mind boggling. You thought it was wild the other day when why were white people sitting around letting Trump pick their pocket by creating this slush fund of our taxpayer money. Now we're now white people, rich white people are letting Trump manipulate the stock market and front run them and make money where potentially they're on the other side of the trades. Cause for every winning trade, there's someone on the other side of the trade.

Mark Hayes (10:22.658)
It's nutty, bro. It's my idiot.

Mark Hayes (10:48.302)
There's a loser.

Brock Ganeles (10:50.032)
who lost out, who was short oil futures, thinking that they were gonna go down, price was gonna go down because we were negotiating peace and the straight-o-hormuz was gonna be opened. And then Trump wakes up the next morning and says, fuck that, we're bombing them again. And boom, oil price spikes. You're that investor who is short oil futures, you just got crushed while Trump made millions. So there's a white guy losing money on every one of these trades.

Mark Hayes (10:52.056)
Yep. Yep.

Mark Hayes (10:58.309)
Down. Yep.

Right.

Mark Hayes (11:16.43)
Billy.

Mark Hayes (11:19.809)
Right, right, absolutely. And now they're talking about Israel and the US with joint attacks on Iran nuclear facilities, and they're talking about going in and getting enriched uranium. So I'm sure he's making deals on that, trying to figure out which stocks they can buy and sell. now,

We've got Iran over there saying, us. They're doing these mock explosions around these nuclear facilities ahead of the storm. I mean, it is just a total shitshow. And you can't trust anything that he said.

Brock Ganeles (12:03.76)
Nope. That's boots on the ground. I hadn't heard that today. that, that we were talking about doing that again, because that changes a whole dynamic that soldiers on the ground in mountainous regions. That's like Afghanistan shit and booby traps and IEDs and all kinds of shit. That's military deaths and people getting me people getting maimed. Yeah, that's

Mark Hayes (12:11.576)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (12:18.296)
Yep. Yep.

Mark Hayes (12:27.681)
Right, lots of them.

So we're talking about 1,000 soldiers, according to the reporting. 1,000 soldiers needed to go in and get this enriched and weapons-grade uranium.

Brock Ganeles (12:41.934)
Is that enough? Thousand soldiers sounds like they could get outnumbered when you're on somebody else's terrain.

Mark Hayes (12:48.442)
in a country of 90 million people who choose martyrdom over anything else. I mean, let's call it like we see it. They're dying to go get their 72 virgins. So, exactly.

Brock Ganeles (13:01.092)
and it's their home turf. know the terrain. They know where, I mean, if the Strait of Hormuz had mines in it, how could there not be IEDs and all kinds of other devices ready for troops that are gonna go after these uranium facilities that are apparently way underground in the mountains, right? These facilities aren't like on Broadway Tehran where you're just driving in and you know.

Mark Hayes (13:06.977)
And how do we

Mark Hayes (13:17.277)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (13:21.057)
Yup.

you

Brock Ganeles (13:26.8)
you know, going to the taxi stand and picking up the uranium, no, like they gotta be in the most remote regions and dangerous regions and...

Mark Hayes (13:27.016)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (13:34.169)
And fortified, you know, it's going to be a fortified. I mean, Jesus Christ, we've already telegraphed that we're coming. Right? Like, what kind of war plan is that? What kind of war plan is it when you tell the other guy what you're getting ready to do? I mean, these people are just they just suck at this. And it's it's really frustrating to watch because now we're going to have all these.

know, coffins, drinks with American flag coming back home. Right? Also, we don't see the Epstein file. NetYahu is using it as a cover to keep them going to his criminal trial. Right? This is why he keeps delaying the trial. We got, know, we're in an active war. You know, I mean, it is just insane, The madness that we are allowing, you know, should

Brock Ganeles (14:20.154)
Mm-hmm.

Mark Hayes (14:31.044)
absolutely be checked. And the fact that Congress is powerless, it just makes me sick. The fact that he just bulldozes through Congress. And they had military leaders on the Hill yesterday that couldn't answer any questions, couldn't tell us what the plan was in front of Senate Intelligence Committee. Couldn't tell us what, couldn't tell us the plan, bro.

Brock Ganeles (14:54.118)
because they don't really have one. They maybe had one drawn up, but either dealing with a madman in charge, so there's no real strategic nature to the actions. I I thought that we're now totally shifting gears and focused on Cuba because Trump didn't want us talking about the Iran war anymore, that he's trying to just like, you know.

Mark Hayes (14:56.631)
Right.

Mark Hayes (15:04.056)
Mark Hayes (15:19.052)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (15:20.422)
You know, we moved off of Venezuela, we moved off of the Greenland bullshit. We don't, never talk about Ukraine anymore, right? Like that's not even.

Mark Hayes (15:26.294)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (15:29.847)
It's not even the thing.

Brock Ganeles (15:31.118)
not even a thing. It's not even, you know, we're not really supporting them. They're on their own. So now with Iran, I figured Cuba was a diversion because Iran was going so poorly. But now you're telling me there's some block of the other double down in Iran that must be fucking Netanyahu pushing it. But I don't know. You know, the Cuba thing is another bullshit thing. We're starving the Cuban people.

Mark Hayes (15:43.167)
Right.

Mark Hayes (15:48.183)
You're right.

Brock Ganeles (15:53.368)
And now we have like some arrest warrant for Roel Castro. Who the fuck are we running around the world, know, arresting world leaders like like we've decided because our our because our system is so fair and equitable and honest.

Mark Hayes (15:57.302)
Roll the

Mark Hayes (16:09.009)
Right. Yeah. I mean, it's a joke. 1996 bombing. That's what this is all about. Like, you're issuing an arrest warrant for a 30-year-old bombing. Like, all of a now, that's a thing? Or is

Brock Ganeles (16:24.144)
The sad reality is we just bombed an elementary school in Iran and killed 160 schoolgirls. okay, so we're, but we're gonna arrest another leader for a bombing? We're bombing fucking boats all over the Caribbean. Like Pete Hegsitz got a leg to stand on in terms of like the legality of bombings. Like we have no moral authority in the world. This is just rogue. This is rogue bullshit that we're pulling.

Mark Hayes (16:30.251)
Right. Right.

Mark Hayes (16:39.347)
Right. Right.

Mark Hayes (16:50.176)
At all.

Right, right, all in an effort to hide the Epstein files. I mean, that's all this comes down to. The pedophile protection administration. That's what this is. Let's call it like we see it. And think about all the lies. Number one, that have been ruined in the Epstein files. But number two, the lives that have been forever altered and taken away.

in a theater of war that had nothing to do with us and everything to do with a scary ass president who's a pedophile protecting other rich, well-to-do pedophiles. While Ghislaine Maxwell sits in a comfortable prison where she orders her meals ahead of time, has access to computers and television and gets special treatment at Club Fed.

Make it make sense. Yep.

Brock Ganeles (17:53.402)
MAGA is on board. They just went into Kentucky and primaried out Thomas Massey who was one of the Republicans pushing hard for the Epstein files. Now he's still going to sit in his seat for seven months but he's out come January. in essence the MAGA voter is still on Trump's side.

Mark Hayes (18:07.446)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (18:14.461)
Right, right. So is Daniel Cameron, by the way.

Brock Ganeles (18:22.774)
and will extricate any MAGA representative that isn't properly supportive of Trump. That's what we still see. Kennedy down in Louisiana got primaried out because he had voted for impeachment five or six years ago and Massey just got primaried out. So MAGA is still on board. MAGA shrunk. MAGA feels smaller.

Mark Hayes (18:23.37)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (18:42.361)
Yep. Yep.

Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (18:50.138)
But what's left of it, and you know what? If you're still on board with MAGA, you fucking love Trump. Like you ain't peeling away at all. know, Democrats shouldn't even think about trying to talk to this group of MAGA. These people just need to be overwhelmed. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (18:56.267)
Right. No.

Mark Hayes (19:06.208)
They're deviant. Yes. Yeah. This is a deviant bunch. Criminal minded. I mean, this is almost like sociopaths that are out here. They're here for the pain. They're here for the racism. But, know, right. Right. Let's call them like we say, they're white supremacists, Christian nationalists and bad for this country. They're taking our country in the wrong direction.

Brock Ganeles (19:22.736)
They're Christian Nationalists.

Mark Hayes (19:35.946)
They are anti expertise, which I think is one of the biggest unseen issues that we're having in the country right now, because without expertise, think about how they dismantled the CDC box with science. You know, like, if you're not into it, fine, you're not into it. But why do we not want to keep searching, you know, for ways that we can have better health, better, better health outcomes, better?

The stress that America is killing people. Just the stress of being American.

Brock Ganeles (20:09.285)
Okay.

Brock Ganeles (20:13.03)
The worst end, because we cut all the funding to USAID, we don't have as many people on the ground in Africa, and now there's a strain of Ebola that's a new strain for which we don't have a vaccine. So now, look, the risk of it coming to the US maybe isn't huge, but it's out there.

Mark Hayes (20:24.418)
Boom.

Brock Ganeles (20:32.902)
But lot of other people are going to die. But MAGA doesn't care if other people die, particularly people in Africa, right? So MAGA just doesn't give a shit. So we're just going to sit back in America and watch the carnage that we could have done something about. And of course we did do something about back in the Obama administration. We nipped that Obolla outbreak early stage. There were deaths, but it wasn't, wasn't fucking widespread tragic. So from that,

Mark Hayes (20:33.631)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (20:39.594)
Right.

Mark Hayes (20:50.772)
Right.

Cool. Yeah.

with the quickness.

Brock Ganeles (21:02.746)
to the flip side of the coin where we're just not going to cure cancers and other diseases in the way that we could have because we're not going to have the scientific advancements because we pulled the money out of it. Why? Why? Why did we pull the money out of that? Because the corrupt Trump administration wanted more money for themselves. It had to come out of scientific research. We voted for that.

Mark Hayes (21:16.187)
Right. Right.

Yep, it makes no sense.

Mark Hayes (21:27.027)
Right. And it's all money that's going into their pockets. Money that they're literally pulling out of research and putting into their pockets, which is just absolutely disgusting until they need it. Right. But they're going to have enough money to fly to whatever country to get the latest, greatest treatments. You know, while the rest of us will sit here and die, you know, and watch our loved ones suffer or suffer ourselves with something that could have been cure.

Or, or, or at least giving us a chance to have an elongated stretch. You know, it's it's it's sickening this entire administration is sickening. I can't wait for the death of it because I'm going to celebrate, you know, like, is 19 party like it's fucking 1999 all over again when these fuckers are out of here and it's gotta go.

Brock Ganeles (22:24.23)
Well, we got to accelerate it by being more belligerent. Like we're just not belligerent enough. There was a great, know, on the overpasses where sometimes people put a message in the overpass and I saw one yesterday that said, we are under reacting. America is under reacting to what's going on.

Mark Hayes (22:28.516)
Right. Right.

Mark Hayes (22:40.713)
You're Underreacting. Yep. That's a perfect description. It's a perfect description. How are we not burning the place down with 3700 insider trades? Well, look at here. Here's good news from Georgia. I'm going to give you some names. Keisha Lance Bottoms, top of the ticket. Tanya Miller, Penny Brown Reynolds, Lucy McBath, Nikima Williams, Amanda Hollowell, and Jasmine Clark.

all advancing in their respective congressional contact. Black women across Georgia leading, courage, vision, purpose. You got the 92 % activated, right?

Brock Ganeles (23:29.892)
Yeah, they're going to, you know, we talked about the other day, will they drive just dramatic voter turnout and will they inspire black people primarily to overcome the voter suppression efforts that you know are coming their way?

Mark Hayes (23:38.088)
For now, right.

Mark Hayes (23:45.522)
Well, think about this. We have a chance to elect the first woman Black governor. You think Atlanta and all the urban areas throughout Georgia are not coming out for Keisha Lance Bottoms? Keisha Lance Bottoms is very well known, very well liked, very well respected, and very qualified to run the state of Georgia.

Brock Ganeles (24:12.794)
Did the black vote come out for Jasmine Crockett in Texas? Not enough. Not enough.

Mark Hayes (24:16.735)
No, they did not. Not enough. Remember, we have 4 million voting age Texans, African-American, that did not get to the polls like they need to.

Brock Ganeles (24:26.127)
Me?

Maybe because the contrast is even more stark and it's not a primary. Maybe... Hey, this is the game, right? I mean, we should be out protesting in the streets and shutting down the functioning of America. In lieu of that, you know, we're five months away, six months away, May, June, August, November, October, six months away from going to the ballot box in November.

Mark Hayes (24:39.525)
Right.

Mark Hayes (24:58.152)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (24:58.278)
There's gotta be registration movements and it's just gotta be a buzz. It's gotta be the thing that everyone's doing. I don't know if it turned into a fucking TikTok trend where everyone does like, know, cartwheels or some other, you know, some fucking dance outside election polling places after they vote and then post their dance. I mean, if that's what it takes to get like a youth vote, like we need some shit like that.

Mark Hayes (25:09.286)
Right.

Mark Hayes (25:21.372)
Right?

Exactly. But nobody's reaching out to them and I don't understand we should be just flooding college campuses in the fall. Just flooding them. Because you know what?

Brock Ganeles (25:33.466)
Well, maybe those six candidates that you just laid out are gonna do that. Maybe. I hope so.

Mark Hayes (25:38.394)
Yeah, well, let's hope so. Because have you seen the latest news about BlackRock talking about eliminating the middle class and just like eliminating middle class housing so that by 2030, there are no more personal vehicles or personal homes. Everybody is sharing everything except for the wealthiest people in the country. That's BlackRock's plan.

I mean, how diabolical is that? But you got to think about it, right? We've got homes for rent now, right? When do you ever remember in 60 years on this earth, people going into a neighborhood that says all these homes in here, these 80 homes are for rent?

It's the first time I've ever seen it, much less seen it in my community.

Brock Ganeles (26:34.054)
So they want to all that. They want to turn America into a country of renters with them at the top as the owners. And really everything becomes like multifamily dwellings. So basically an absolute elimination, not just of the middle class, but like of the American dream, the picket fence, your own yard, something that's that's yours. And, know, when you're a homeowner, you bitch about how expensive it is. Just shit breaks all the time. You got to fix it. And I always laughed that I

Mark Hayes (26:39.044)
Yes! Yep.

Mark Hayes (26:46.705)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (26:54.392)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (27:02.262)
Right, right.

Brock Ganeles (27:03.92)
that I was born to be a renter because I can't fix any of this shit and everything costs too much money. But you own your little plot of the world. So the libertarian streak in you is like, you know what? This is mine. No one can fuck with me on this. This little plot that I have that I own, I'm protected here by the laws, right? No one can trespass on my property. And that's that's built into the American ethos.

Mark Hayes (27:08.495)
me too.

Mark Hayes (27:17.438)
That's mine. Right.

Mark Hayes (27:21.923)
Yep.

It's my spec. Yep. Yep.

Brock Ganeles (27:33.574)
You tell me like some private equity companies just going to wipe that out. America's going to go along with it. don't know. America's been going along with a lot of shit. So I guess I wouldn't put it past them, but that certainly doesn't seem like what most people envision their lives to be. And when you start fucking with too many people and making their lives shitty and taking and taking and taking, that's when there's massive violent.

Mark Hayes (27:34.031)
Yes!

Mark Hayes (27:42.277)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (27:54.788)
Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (28:03.938)
insurrections. We saw those fuckers on Jan 6th, they were riled up just because they thought a vote was stolen. You start stealing people's lives and livelihoods from them. They're play- I just think they're playing with fire.

Mark Hayes (28:05.762)
Right. Right. But that's what we need.

Mark Hayes (28:11.886)
Yep.

Mark Hayes (28:19.489)
absolutely. Absolutely. And it's just diabolical. I mean, how disgusting do you have to be to be a part of this Trump administration where they don't want anybody to have anything except for them and their richest friends? I mean, what the fuck is that?

Brock Ganeles (28:39.59)
You gotta be a white supremacist and you gotta be wealthy. And you put those two things together as your cocktail and you don't give a fuck about any person of color or any other in any which way. And you don't care about anyone who doesn't have as much money as you because you're like, why shouldn't I just take more? And then it feeds on itself. And this is where Trump is the worst, right? Because you start seeing the selfishness and other people go, well, why shouldn't I be corrupt? Why should I play by the rules? Why shouldn't I take anything that I can possibly get?

Mark Hayes (28:43.502)
Right.

Mark Hayes (29:02.572)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (29:09.574)
and it's fed on itself and everyone wants more and more and more.

Mark Hayes (29:09.996)
Yep. And that's what we're doing now.

Yep, and that's what we're doing now. All right, what do you got for quick hits?

Brock Ganeles (29:19.686)
Couple things, number one, have you heard anything on that San Diego shooting? Nothing. It came, it went, it's gone. Couple teenage kids grabbed guns and shot up a mosque. So it's a combination of access to firearms plus xenophobia and Islamophobia all combined together.

Mark Hayes (29:25.871)
Nothing.

Mark Hayes (29:30.254)
Radio silent.

Mark Hayes (29:40.208)
What was the race of the suspects?

Brock Ganeles (29:47.544)
Story doesn't even make a ripple. I haven't seen a photo of them, but I can almost get... One was almost definitively white, right? And the other was maybe Latino or...

Mark Hayes (29:51.342)
Race of the Suspect.

Mark Hayes (29:59.139)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (30:02.858)
Maybe had a good tan and live in San Diego.

Brock Ganeles (30:03.653)
White also, yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't think it was a couple of black guys.

Mark Hayes (30:09.057)
No, no. So, you know, I used to bitch about this when I was in TV news. We always had the black guys mugshot. The white guy was 50 50. White guy commits a crime. He may appear with a mugshot on TV or he may not.

Brock Ganeles (30:26.98)
and it goes to show the media or the media thinks their audience or the media is so afraid of the FCC, Brendan Carr, that

Mark Hayes (30:31.3)
Yep.

Brock Ganeles (30:38.574)
They don't give a shit about the victims.

Mark Hayes (30:40.766)
Right, right. So.

Brock Ganeles (30:42.904)
No coverage, no teary eyed, no flowers in the sidewalk, no big stories about what great citizens they were and how we lost important people, this and that. Nothing. I didn't even see thoughts and prayers.

Mark Hayes (30:47.694)
No. Yeah. No, no, which you normally expect. I mean, three people dead.

Mark Hayes (31:05.444)
You know, I, yeah. Yeah. I mean.

Brock Ganeles (31:05.616)
Three Muslims dead.

You know, know, Maga was probably thinking, oh, we don't even have to go all the way to Iran to kill them, right? They're right here. We can kill some right here. They're probably quietly cheering it on in the background. No, good job, kids.

Mark Hayes (31:20.801)
Right, Kane Clark and Caleb Vasquez. Caleb could go either way. White, Latina, Black. They could go either way. We're all under the rainbow these days. Remember, we hate race as a social construct. I got one for you. Have you seen this video of the dad scolding his son for using the N-word? Looks like at a bus stop. Yeah, story's gone viral.

Brock Ganeles (31:46.296)
Now.

Mark Hayes (31:50.524)
It's very interesting. The kid is upset with some kids and, you know, fires off a couple of slurs. You know, the man confronts his son after calling one of the kids the N-word. you know, he's cussing at him, you know, get your ass over here and apologize. So, you know, we need more of that, right? But my issue with this story is why is the

Why is the default setting for anger with Black people the N-word? Right? I mean, it's an ugly word anytime you hear it. But when does it come about in the White ecosystem that, when you have an issue with a Black person, if you really want to cut to the core, just call them the N-word. Because I'm seeing a lot of violence.

On on social media, but people say, lob it out the end work tried the. Judd the building builder, what's his name? Judd the builder.

Brock Ganeles (32:58.446)
Yeah, Chudler, the guy you said got arrested for a shooting. used to go around and do viral videos making racist comments. But what it's really doing is the word is emblematic of saying, I'm higher up on the social fucking strata than you. So yeah, just reminding you.

Mark Hayes (33:02.459)
Yeah.

Calling people the N-word, yeah.

Mark Hayes (33:17.217)
hierarchy. Yep. Yep.

Brock Ganeles (33:22.374)
I have more power around here than you do.

Mark Hayes (33:25.493)
Right. I'm more valuable. A lot of subliminal messages coming in that word.

Brock Ganeles (33:31.728)
So don't fuck with me because I got a lot behind me. got the power of the state behind me. The cavalry will come for me. It will not come for you. So don't push this too far. You will suffer in the end. Don't fuck with me. Right. That's really what that one word is making that much broader statement. Where where was this incident located? Out of curiosity.

Mark Hayes (33:35.914)
Right. Right.

Mark Hayes (33:43.648)
Right. Right. No doubt. No doubt.

Mark Hayes (33:55.657)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (33:59.63)
You know what? didn't see where it was. But let's look it up. I'll look it up while you're giving me your next quickness.

Brock Ganeles (34:07.258)
Yeah, because it's why it's sort of like why was the word in the kids vocabulary? Why did he think that he could use it without getting his ass his head handed to him because he thinks he has the protection of?

Mark Hayes (34:12.716)
Right. Right.

Mark Hayes (34:20.462)
Right. Right. Of that environment. Well, you know he's heard it before. Yep. Yeah.

Brock Ganeles (34:26.136)
of the environment behind him.

And he's, you know what? He's right. He's wielding power that he has.

Mark Hayes (34:36.226)
Right.

Mark Hayes (34:40.589)
You know the mother was very upset. You can't use that word, but it doesn't say the location. Uhm? But you know nonetheless. I'm all.

Brock Ganeles (34:43.608)
huh.

Mm-hmm.

Brock Ganeles (34:50.37)
It's a little deep, but you know what? It's deeper than you can't use that word, right? Because as we've seen, there's a lot of people who think it, who like maybe have enough self-constraint and restraint to not use the word in public, but they think it. They vote that way, right? They're going to be quadruple Trumpers, you know? It's given the chance. And that's the way they do view society.

Mark Hayes (34:56.287)
Right. Right. It's understanding why.

Mark Hayes (35:08.883)
Right. Right?

Right. Right.

Brock Ganeles (35:19.076)
whether they use the N word or not, right? Trump hasn't used the N word yet. Has it used it yet from the oval? But it's certainly been implied the entire time, right? Low IQ people like he's tried to come up with his own little code names and words to send the exact same message about who has the power and who should be watching their back and who gets to bully other people.

Mark Hayes (35:27.221)
It's coming.

Mark Hayes (35:31.126)
it's coming.

Mark Hayes (35:38.392)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (35:46.094)
Yep. So, all right, give me your last one. I can't find the location, but we'll keep digging.

Brock Ganeles (35:55.258)
We'll look it up, we'll get to that. Did you see that Elon Musk's one of his baby mamas from the test tube has been saying that she was with Elon when he was bragging about using Starlink and other things to manipulate the votes in Pennsylvania? How about that? I know you felt this all along, but...

Mark Hayes (36:11.895)
and they played the election. Yeah.

Mark Hayes (36:18.068)
I've been saying it!

Brock Ganeles (36:22.597)
I mean, I kind of believe her now, but you know, I don't know who she is. I don't know from a hole in the wall. Like, I don't know if she's to be believed or what her credibility is as a person. She's mixed up with Elon Musk, which just makes you think she's probably got some issues, but that's interesting. Wouldn't put it beyond must to brag about it, right? What do you think on that story?

Mark Hayes (36:26.06)
Yeah!

Mark Hayes (36:46.605)
I think it's true. You know I think it's true. Because he had no Brown team. He did nothing in Pennsylvania except give out millions of dollars. Trump did nothing. Nothing. No effort to try to win. Kamala knocked on the... Kamala herself was knocking on doors in Pennsylvania. And then remember, Brock, he won all seven swing states? How is it...

He got past the blue wall. He got past the blue wall. So however they did it, we need to be able to stop it next time. And the fact that this woman is saying that should trigger an investigation. A real investigation. Right.

Brock Ganeles (37:28.666)
Yeah, but there's no one to investigate because Trump runs the DOJ. So the same way he's being protected by Epstein and that's why it's still also the most important factor to him because he's just layering more treason, corruption, pedophilia, sexual assault on top of he's just piling it up, which just makes it more and more, you know, important for him to never lose control of.

Mark Hayes (37:45.418)
Yeah.

Mark Hayes (37:50.984)
Right.

Brock Ganeles (37:57.498)
the American justice system.

Mark Hayes (37:59.48)
Bottom line, bottom line. All right, buddy. Good stuff. Great show. Loved it. Revolution.

Brock Ganeles (38:04.774)
Alright Mark, let's stay in the fight, let's stay strong, let's keep talking our truth and getting people motivated for both protest and vote. We need both.

Mark Hayes (38:12.266)
Yes indeed, truth to power!

Let's get the revolution televised. No doubt. All right, buddy, rack it up and do it again tomorrow. Yes, sir. Peace.

Brock Ganeles (38:21.062)
Well, Mark, always a pleasure. Talk to you tomorrow.